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    #21
    Originally posted by JoeyZagz View Post
    Lewis beat them both its in the record books.

    Doesnt matter what you think.
    Stop trolling, neither were at their peak.

    Originally posted by TBear View Post
    May I change my answer every few days as the mood hits me? Tough one!
    its a tough one, I still haven't really decided, it can change all the time, just thought I'd stir up some good debate.

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      #22
      Roided up Holyfield failed against Lennox, and the early 90's Holyfield with health problems wouldve failed even worse. The aggressive Evan who fought Bowe wouldve opened himself up to more counters and would get beaten to a pulp.

      Mike Tyson is too short to do anything significant to Lennox. Prime Tyson couldnt floor Tucker and had serious issues with Buster Douglas. Lennox is an advanced version of Tucker/Douglas with far superior power.

      No one with less than an 82 reach has been able to put LL down. Id actually give Liston a better shot at upsetting LL than Tyson or Fields.

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        #23
        Resume

        1. Holyfield
        2. Lewis
        3. Tyson

        H2H

        1. Holyfield
        2. Tyson
        3. Lewis

        Lewis fought washed up Holyfield, who was fighting in spurts. Evander's workrate was much worse than it was in his prime years. Look, not only Evander was 37 (3 years older, than Lennox), but his first fight for the world title was 13 years before Lewis' fight - actually, he wasn't in his prime since Bowe II fight. Lewis 1st fight for the world title was only 6 years before Holyfield fights, so not only Holyfield was 3 years older, but had 7 more years of fighting against the top fighters. Holyfield was already washed up fighter in 96-97. Yes, he beat Tyson and Moorer, but anybody, who had seen his fights against Qawi, De Leon, Thomas, Dokes, Douglas and Bowe would agree, that he was well past his prime in 96-97. And after that he had only one fight in 98 - he looked awful against Vaughn Bean. After Lewis' fights Holyfield looked awful again in John Ruiz trilogy. Oh, yeah, and a lot of people (including Roy Jones Jr., Larry Holmes and Klitschko brothers) think Holyfield deserved a win in the second Lewis' fight. I think, if both fighters were in there respective primes Holyfield's workrate would cause Lewis a tons of problems.

        Lewis - Tyson. Tyson was beyond shot when he fought Lewis. He was washed up for years. He fought exactly ONCE in 20 months prior to Lewis' fight, and he looked awful, completely shot against old and extremely fat dannish heavyweight Brian Nielsen. He was 15-17 lbs overweight and obviously didn't train hard for Lewis' fight. If you think, you can rank Lewis over Tyson (H2H) basing on their fight - well, then you should rank Danny Williams and Kevin McBride ahead of Mike as well.

        Saying that, I think Lewis was a great fighter - I can see why people thinking he would beat Holyfield and Tyson in their primes, but please, don't use prime (vs Evander) and good (vs Mike) versions of Lewis defeating well past prime version of Holyfield and shot Tyson as the proof of how Lennox would beat them had he fought the prime versions of both.
        Last edited by Big Ukrainian; 04-03-2011, 02:02 PM.

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          #24
          Originally posted by JoeyZagz View Post
          Roided up Holyfield failed against Lennox, and the early 90's Holyfield with health problems wouldve failed even worse. The aggressive Evan who fought Bowe wouldve opened himself up to more counters and would get beaten to a pulp.

          Mike Tyson is too short to do anything significant to Lennox. Prime Tyson couldnt floor Tucker and had serious issues with Buster Douglas. Lennox is an advanced version of Tucker/Douglas with far superior power.

          No one with less than an 82 reach has been able to put LL down. Id actually give Liston a better shot at upsetting LL than Tyson or Fields.
          Asinine. Seriously dude, you need to find a Lennox fan site to post on instead of running propaganda over here. You're as bad as STEELHAMMER2010 or ***** fanbois when it comes to posting literary fellatio of your favorite fighters. Bottom line is you're not a boxing fan you're a nuthugger. Get a clue dude.

          Poet

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            #25
            H2H and Greatness:

            1. Holyfield

            2. Tyson

            3. Lewis
            Last edited by Vadrigar.; 04-03-2011, 02:48 PM.

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              #26
              Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
              Asinine. Seriously dude, you need to find a Lennox fan site to post on instead of running propaganda over here. You're as bad as STEELHAMMER2010 or ***** fanbois when it comes to posting literary fellatio of your favorite fighters. Bottom line is you're not a boxing fan you're a nuthugger. Get a clue dude.

              Poet
              lmao
              JoeyZagz=Lionheartlewis aka Dan Vida?
              Last edited by Toney616; 04-05-2011, 05:31 AM.

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                #27
                Originally posted by RFPROBOX
                But Tyson listened to his "brother" Don King and had to get whitey out of his life. He fired jim Jacobs too.
                Think he fired Jacobs because of his inactivity on account he was dead and nothing to do with his colour. But don't let the facts get in the way of an agenda

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by GJC View Post
                  Think he fired Jacobs because of his inactivity on account he was dead and nothing to do with his colour. But don't let the facts get in the way of an agenda
                  LMAO! I was not aware either that Jacobs was fired. hahaha this is great stuff.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by GJC View Post
                    Think he fired Jacobs because of his inactivity on account he was dead and nothing to do with his colour. But don't let the facts get in the way of an agenda
                    lol

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by JoeyZagz View Post
                      If we were comparing guys who never fought before, like Ali and Louis, then an opinion would matter.

                      Both Tyson and Evan fought Lennox in real life and could not defeat him. That's a fact.
                      Ali fought Trevor Berbick in real life and could not defeat him. That's a fact.

                      Marciano fought Joe Louis in real life and could not defeat him. That's a fact.

                      Larry Holmes fought Mike Tyson in real life and could not defeat him. That's a fact.

                      Roberto Duran fought Vinny Pazienza in real life and could not defeat him. That's a fact.

                      etc, etc, etc, etc.

                      Fact is, Tyson was clearly shot and many people thought a past prime Evander avenged what should've been a loss. And if those are Lewis' two best wins, he's in trouble.

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