Hall of Fame 2010 ballot: who would you vote for?

[Obama]

Well, I don't let Herb Goldman make my decisions for me. Rinty Monaghan retired as a world champion, and I see he rates higher in objective, computerized rankings than he does in the opinions of American "experts" like Goldman. There's always been an anti-British bias on the part of some of the American "experts" who vote on the Ring ratings.

When exactly have you ever seen GOOD computerized ratings? Even the people who run boxrec know the ratings are crap. IBO ratings are also computerized, they're even worse than boxrec.

Seriously, it's Rinty Monaghan. His record was pretty average considering his level of opposition. Had he went undefeated he'd have a case. But as it stands he has none whatsoever.

[Suckmedry]

I think he deserves it, based on his achievements as an amateur and as a pro.

Firstly, it's the professional HoF. Amatuer acheivements, however great, have nothing to do with it.

Secondly, Ottke was on the good end of a million dodgy and outright wrong decisions. He had a solid skillset, but his power was non-existant. He was a good fighter, but stats are misleading.

[Scott9945]

Really? Inform boxrec and wikipedia then.

You might want to check that Wikipedia list again.

[Obama]

You might want to check that Wikipedia list again.

Bah, accent on the e made control-f miss it.

[PEBBLES!]

You might want to check that Wikipedia list again.

Just go to the main source next time.

[Obama]

Just go to the main source next time.

Sadly the wikipedia page is updated more than that site. But at least control-f wouldn't have missed it there.

[BennyST]

The voters can pick up to 10 boxers, but only the top 3 will be inducted.

Who would you choose?

First Time Nominees:

1. Julio Cesar Chavez
2. Kostya Tszyu
3. Mike Tyson


Return Nominees:

4. Horacio Acavallo
5. Georgie Abrams
6. Joey Archer
7. Jose Becerra
8. Johnny Bratton
9. Jimmy Carruthers
10. Donald Curry
11. Hiroyuki Ebihara
12. Tommy Farr
13. Tiger Jack Fox
14. Ceferino Garcia
15. Betulio Gonzalez
16. Yoko Gushiken
17. Naseem Hamed
18. Carlos Hernandez
19. Harry Jeffra
20. Rafael Herrera
21. Al Hostak
22. Peter Kane
23. Cocoa Kid
24. Pone Kingpetch
25. Tippy Larkin
26. Santos Laciar
27. Jose Legra
28. Miguel Lora
29. Raul Macias
30. Ernesto Marcel
31. Freddie Mills
32. Rinty Monaghan
33. Masao Ohba
34. Sven Ottke
35. Ken Overlin
36. Gustave Roth
37. Lou Salica
38. Dave Sands
39. Petey Scalzo
40, Samuel Serrano
41. Yoshio Shirai
42. Kid Tunero
43. Wilfredo Vazquez
44. Myung Woo Yuh
45. Hilario Zapata

photo of Dan Rafael's ballot:

It's hard to to pick. So many of them are deserving. The three first timers are all definite HOFers and many of the return nominee list either are already World Boxing HOFers and also certainly deserve their entry into the IBHOF. Like *****, I'm surprised that Jackson and De Jesus haven't come up yet. I think both are already WBHOFers...

Anyway, the guys that deserve to get in (in my opinion of the guys I know about) from the return list are Hilario Zapata, Myung Woo Yuh, Wilfredo Vasquez, Ernesto Marcel, Sammy Serrano, Donald Curry, Naseem Hamed, Carlos Hernandez, Hiroyuki Ebihara, 'Happy' Lora, Pone Kingpetch, Horacio Accavallo....That's enough for now. I can't be bothered thinking anymore.

Some of the other guys are very hard. They would beat some great fighters but lose to a lot of them too, maybe more than won, so it can be difficult. Kid Tunero is a perfect example. He was the first guy to beat Jose Basora, and Ezzard Charles I think. He beat Holman Williams too, but he lost to him three times too and lost about a third of his fights overall.

Yoko Gushiken, Masao Ohba, Georgie Abrams, Joey Archer, Jose Bacerra....well, everyone on that list were really great fighters. Do they all deserve to be in the HOF though? Probably not. You've really got to know the era they fought in, know their opponents well, who they beat, when and how.

[Obama]

Another guy I forgot to name, Alabama Kid. Fought from Flyweight to Heavyweight. Fought and beat world class opposition from Middleweight to Heavyweight.

He was the Negro Middleweight Champion. He beat Gorrila Jones to win the title. Jones I might add is already in the HOF. Surely Alabama Kid will now follow. He's 2-0 against Jones overall.

[SBleeder]

Sven Ottke Tunney are you serious?

Ottke definitely deserves to be inducted at some point.

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Julio Cesar Chavez
Kostya Tszyu
Mike Tyson
Georgie Abrams
Ceferino Garcia
Naseem Hamed
Cocao Kid
Ernesto Marcel
Wilfredo Vazquez
Hilario Zapata