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    #41
    Cleveland Williams was pretty fast for a puncher. Not saying he was as fast as Tyson, but he was one of the big punchers who also had speed. Not at the time he fought Ali though, he was just a punching bag by then.





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      #42
      Originally posted by TheGreatA View Post
      Cleveland Williams was pretty fast for a puncher. Not saying he was as fast as Tyson, but he was one of the big punchers who also had speed. Not at the time he fought Ali though, he was just a punching bag by then.





      Do you have footage of the Williams - Liston fight? I would really like to see that.

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        #43
        Originally posted by MmuhammadM View Post
        Do you have footage of the Williams - Liston fight? I would really like to see that.


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          #44
          Williams not in the same league as Tyson as far as speed goes. And he didn't even hit as hard.

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            #45
            Never saw Tyson throw triple left hooks though. Not that he couldn't have.

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              #46
              Originally posted by TheGreatA View Post
              Never saw Tyson throw triple left hooks though. Not that he couldn't have.
              Originally posted by TheGreatA View Post
              That a triple left at 7 seconds?

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                #47
                Originally posted by Mr. Shen View Post
                That a triple left at 7 seconds?
                In an actual fight. Most boxers throw those kind of short punches while shadow boxing. Tyson never utilized triple left hooks from what I remember, but I wouldn't question his ability to throw them. But Cleveland Williams did utilize them and scored quite a few knockouts with his left hooks. One must have above average speed to be able to do that.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by TheGreatA View Post
                  Never saw Tyson throw triple left hooks though. Not that he couldn't have.
                  They have to stay standing after the first 2 to throw 3.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by CarlosG815 View Post
                    They have to stay standing after the first 2 to throw 3.

                    Against Ribalta he had a big punching bag in front of him. If he ever threw such a combination it would have been in this fight as he hit Ribalta with everything but the ring stool.

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                      #50
                      I've seen Tyson land triple uppercuts in a fight with the left.

                      I'll see if I can remember which opponent.

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