why dont u rate monzon higher i mean he is top 3 middlewieght ever
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thats debatatable i have him at three as requested my top ten middles at present are as follows:
1. Harry Greb
2. Marvin Hagler
3. Carlos Monzon
4. Bernard Hopkins
5. Sugar Ray Robinson
6. Bob Fitzimmons
7. Stan Ketchal
8. Roy Jones
9. Marcel Cerdan
10 Jake la motta
Hnourable metions Tony Zale, Suger Ray Robinson, **** Tiger, Rocky Graziano.
Top ten welterweights
1. Sugar Ray Rob
2. Suger Ray Lenoard
3. Henry Amrstrong
4. Wilfred Benitez
5. Mickey Walker
6. Kid Gavalian
7. Duran
8. Emile Griffith
9. Tommy Heartns
10. Carmen Basillo
Special mentions to De la hoya, Tito, and pernell whitaker.
there you go .
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Originally posted by JPWthats debatatable i have him at three as requested my top ten middles at present are as follows:
1. Harry Greb
2. Marvin Hagler
3. Carlos Monzon
4. Bernard Hopkins
5. Sugar Ray Robinson
6. Bob Fitzimmons
7. Stan Ketchal
8. Roy Jones
9. Marcel Cerdan
10 Jake la motta
Hnourable metions Tony Zale, Suger Ray Robinson, **** Tiger, Rocky Graziano.
Top ten welterweights
1. Sugar Ray Rob
2. Suger Ray Lenoard
3. Henry Amrstrong
4. Wilfred Benitez
5. Mickey Walker
6. Kid Gavalian
7. Duran
8. Emile Griffith
9. Tommy Heartns
10. Carmen Basillo
Special mentions to De la hoya, Tito, and pernell whitaker.
there you go .
u have SRR at 5 and u give him an honor mention? greb is overrated lmao
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sorry thats blatently a **** up.
its meant to be Sugar ray lenoard.
explain to me how greb was overated.
i also misse doff an honourable mention for ted kid lewis who may on another day make it to the lower end of the list.
depends on my mood and theres so many great fighter im bound to have missed some off somewhere but its pretty much there.Last edited by J !; 05-17-2005, 07:15 AM.
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Duran wasnt even at Welterweight for awhile, he lost his first WBC Welterweight Title in his first defence to Sugar Ray Leonard, and hes known for losing.
And can someone explain How Carmen upsets DLH and Trinidad when he loses alot? He lost to a guy 3-13-3.
And good looking on 4. Wilfred Benitez, many underrated him.Last edited by IwatchBoxing; 05-17-2005, 09:00 AM.
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Simple levels of opposition.
We are talking about is reign as Welter champ i think most would say Carmen deserves to be in there.
Duran beat lenoard as welterwight so deserves to be inthere.
again few would argue his inclusion.
Im not going to get into another tito coversation with you and why you would have him in there and why i wouldnt cos your too biased on the subject you asked for lists I gave them to you buddy.
Tito got exposed for what he is against hopkins and agian last wekeend if he had 80 odd fights he would have alot more losses on there too. Tito is a good fighter, one with great power in that left but one who is one dimensional and had no plan b.
its too easy to pick holes in such lists but i gave you the best i could come up with a range of fighters fomr different era's if you dont agree thats fine Im not saying those lists are spot on but they arent bad by any stretch of the imagination.
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case in point i forgot another who would be ranked higher tan tito in the latino list Ricardo Lopez.
Jabs Ive only just seen you post on Sanchez mate you vastly underate the man, maynbe i underate Tito but you certianly are underating Sanchez.
eff me the guy cleaned up the feathweight div.
Azumah, danny lopez twice (an eleven time wbc champ) Ruben Castillo, destroyed Wilfredo Gomez, you say he struggled agianst Cowdell but thats debatable two judges has it wide for sanchez and he floored pat dont forget..he did this in a two year period defending his title 9 times in a 2 year period.
yeah he was **** hey!
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Simple levels of opposition. We are talking about is reign as Welter champ i think most would say Carmen deserves to be in there. This is biased and a joke, that guy sucks.
Duran beat lenoard as welterwight so deserves to be inthere.
again few would argue his inclusion.
Just cause he beat him means nothing, that is an insult to people who actually fought at Welterweight.
Im not going to get into another tito coversation with you and why you would have him in there and why i wouldnt cos your too biased on the subject you asked for lists I gave them to you buddy. You have Carmen, a loser, on your list, and I'm biased? Durans weight is Lightweight, not Welter.
Tito got exposed for what he is against hopkins and agian last wekeend if he had 80 odd fights he would have alot more losses on there too. Tito is a good fighter, one with great power in that left but one who is one dimensional and had no plan b.
Trinidad wasnt exposed in his 18 defenses at welterweight, and beat three all time greats.
its too easy to pick holes in such lists but i gave you the best i could come up with a range of fighters fomr different era's if you dont agree thats fine Im not saying those lists are spot on but they arent bad by any stretch of the imagination.Too easy to make excuses for a guy who loses to everybody when your not into reason, or commen sense
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Sugar Ray Rob
Suger Ray Lenoard
Henry Amrstrong
Wilfred Benitez
Mickey Walker
Kid Gavalian
Tommy Hearns
Trinidad
Oscar De La Hoya
Seems much better.
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jose napoles should be in any top 10 welter lists
lost only on cuts, except against monzon at 160
champion (lineal champ, not tito's 18 iBS... oops ibf... defenses...)
from 69 to 75 (with a break to a cut loss, avenged by a quite vicious tko 6 months later)
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