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    The Undefeated

    I hope nobody takes offence, because this is not my work, but instead, a tribute to the boxing knowledge of fellow poster, hhascup..
    I have to say, this will probably be the most amazing list you'll ever see, and felt compelled to post it.. I do hope this doesn't get me into trouble with *****, as i know he is also in possession of these facts, which i have taken the liberty of copying: but as boxing historians, we can now discuss and hopefully gain knowledge about fighters we never knew about, ie; Has anyone ever seen Justin Blevins, Charles Tanner or Shazzon Bradley fight?
    3 unbeaten heavyweights, only one of whom (Tanner) i've actually heard of.. Many of the other fighters on these lists look extremely good on paper, so what happened to them? How good were they? and what made them quit while undefeated?
    There's so many of them it's mind boggling!

    Once again... Full Credit to hhascup on this one..


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    Here's a list in each division with 10 or more wins. ONLY retired boxers. I made this list up several years ago so their might be some small errors. I also have the list that goes from 5 or more wins.:

    Heavyweights

    Rocky Marciano (1947-1955) World Heavyweight Champion 49 (43) - 0 (0) – 0
    George Kandelaki - (1998-2003) 24 (18) - 0 (0) – 0
    Shazzon Bradley (1993-1999) 21 (17) - 0 (0) - 0
    Lee Canalito (1977-1987) 21 (19) - 0 (0) - 0
    Ike Ibeabuchi (1994-1999) WBC International Heavyweight Champion - 20 (15) - 0 (0) – 0
    Mamuka Jikurashvili (2004-2006) 19 (13) - 0 (0) - 0
    Charles Tanner (1998-2004) 19 (11) - 0 (0) – 0
    Justin Blevins (2001-2006) 16 (10) - 0 (0) - 0
    Horace Notice (1983-1988) Commonwealth (BE) Heavyweight Belt-holder - 16 (12) - 0 (0) – 0
    Nelson Beleno (1993-1997) 16 (16) - 0 (0) - 0
    Giorgio Bambini (1969-1971) 15 (5) - 0 (0) – 0
    Jesus Correa (1992-1998) 15 (6) - 0 (0) – 1
    Dan Harvison (2002-2006) 14 (9) - 0 (0) - 0
    Kevin Babineaux (1983-1986) 14 (12) - 0 (0) – 0
    Mariusz Wach (2005-2006) 13 (6) - 0 (0) - 0
    Ricky Womack – (1984-2001) (defeated Holyfield 3 times in the amateur) 13 (6) - 0 (0) – 1
    Rudi Pika (1980-1986) 13 (6) - 0 (0) – 0
    John Lee (1978-1980) 13 (12) - 0 (0) – 0
    Shawn Evans (1987-1995) 13 (13) - 0 (0) – 0
    Mariusz Wach (2005-2006) 13 (6) - 0 (0) – 0
    Kertson Manswell (2004-2006) 13 (12) - 0 (0) - 0
    Volodia Lazebnik (2004-2006) 12 (7) - 0 (0) - 0
    Steve Floch (1982-1987) 12 (9) - 0 (0) – 0
    Cash McCallum (1991-1996) 12 (6) - 0 (0) – 3
    Charles Livingston (1993-1996) 12 (12) - 0 (0) - 0
    Omran Awadi (2000-2002) 11 (11) - 0 (0) – 0
    Jesse Reid (1997-2002) 11 (6) - 0 (0) – 1
    David McNemar (1996-2002) 11 (9) - 0 (0) – 0
    Michael Harris (1989-2000) 11 (9) - 0 (0) – 0
    Mike Baggett (1995-1998) 11 (5) - 0 (0) – 1
    Duane Van Der Merwe (1995-2001) 11 (10) - 0 (0) – 0
    Paul Record (2002-2004) 11 (9) - 0 (0) – 0
    David Harris (1983-1985) 11 (7) - 0 (0) – 0
    David Polk (2003-2006) 10 (0) - 6 (0) - 1
    Scotty Riffle (1937-1939) 10 (6) - 0 (0) – 0
    Thomas Sorensen (2001-2003) 10 (9) - 0 (0) – 0
    Jan Nortje (1999-2001) 10 (9) - 0 (0) – 0
    Gilberto Amador (2001-2003) 10 (7) - 0 (0) – 1
    Max Glickman (1930-1934) 10 (8) - 0 (0) – 0
    Mityo Dobrev (1994-1999) 10 (10) - 0 (0) – 0
    Alan O'Sughrue (1972-1973) 10 (7) - 0 (0) – 0
    Jurgen Mloch (1991-1997) 10 (6) - 0 (0) – 0
    Michael Thornberry (1999-2000) 10 (8) - 0 (0) – 0



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    Cruiserweights

    David Quinonero (2000-2006) 22 (21) - 0 (0) – 0
    Adrian Helms (2001-2005) 20 (10) - 0 (0) - 1
    Gurcharan Singh (2001-2004) 17 (10) - 0 (0) - 0
    Roar Petajamaa (1994-1998) 15 (10) - 0 (0) – 0
    Dewey Cooper (2001-2006) 15 (10) - 0 (0) - 2
    Desmond Fingers (1985-1991) 14 (12) - 0 (0) - 0
    Brian Shaw (1993-1997) 13 (8) - 0 (0) – 0
    Gene Molen (2000-2006) 13 (9) - 0 (0) – 1
    Rene Breitbarth (1994-1996) 12 (7) - 0 (0) - 0
    Andre Prophet (1987-1988) 12 (10) - 0 (0) - 1
    Mark Hendem (2002-2005) 12 (8) - 0 (0) – 0
    Patryk Bursztynowicz (2000-2005) 12 (5) - 0 (0) - 0
    Jorge Kahwagi (2001-2005) 11 (11) - 0 (0) - 0
    Mensur Peljto (1997-2002) 11 (5) - 0 (0) - 2
    Benjamin McDowell (1998-2000) 10 (5) - 0 (0) - 0

    Light Heavyweights

    Marek Piotrowski (1992-1996) 21 (11) - 0 (0) - 0
    Eddie White (1994-2005) 19 (11) - 0 (0) - 0
    Wang-Sup Lee (1984-1994) 18 (14) - 0 (0) – 1
    Nelson Alves (1987-1991) 18 (11) - 0 (0) – 2
    Claude Arnaiz (1953-1955) 16 (11) - 0 (0) – 0
    Albert Rybacki (2000-2006) 14 (7) - 0 (0) – 0
    Stan Bogavic (1978-1985) 13 (9) - 0 (0) - 0
    Denis Lebedev (2001-2004) 13 (8) - 0 (0) – 0
    Vyacheslav Burba (2001-2003) 12 (6) - 0 (0) - 0
    Antwon Leach (1994-2000) 11 (7) - 0 (0) - 3
    Adam Hubinger (2004-2005) 11 (10) - 0 (0) – 0
    Frank Weisgerber (1957-1958) 11 (6) - 0 (0) - 0
    Serdar Akova (2002-2005) 10 (5) - 0 (0) - 2
    Ray Grillo (1954-1955) 10 (3) - 0 (0) - 0
    Danny Peters(1993-1996) 10 (3) - 0 (0) – 0
    Nick Reed (1989-1994) 10 (4) - 0 (0) – 0

    Super Middleweights

    Joe Calzaghe 1993-2008 IBF, WBA, WBC, WBO Super Middleweight Champion 46 (32)-0 (0)-0
    Sven Ottke (1997-2004) WBA & IBF Super Middleweight Champion - 34 (6) - 0 (0) – 0
    Derek Edwards (2002-2006) 20 (11) - 0 (0) - 0
    Tomasz Gargula (2000-2005) 15 (5) - 0 (0) – 1
    Rowland Bryant (2003-2006) 14 (9) - 0 (0) - 0
    Darren Barker (2004-2006) 14 (9) - 0 (0) - 0
    Trey Harris (1993-2001) 14 (6) - 0 (0) - 0
    Arthur Shekhmurzov (2002-2005) 14 (7) - 0 (0) – 1
    Ryan Kerr (2001-2006) 13 (5) - 0 (0) - 2
    Michael Bowen (1995) 2001) 13 (10) - 0 (0) – 0
    Danny Smith (2000-2005) 13 (2) - 0 (0) – 1
    Saeed Hawkins (2004-2006) 12 (6) - 0 (0) - 0
    Anthony Dirrell (2005-2006) 12 (11) - 0 (0) - 0
    James Pointer (1996-2000) 11 (8) - 0 (0) – 0
    Jose Alonzo (1999-2003) 11 (7) - 0 (0) - 0
    Ronald Simms (2000-2002) 11 (8) - 0 (0) – 0
    Juan Moreno Angulo (1993-2000) 11 (7) - 0 (0) - 2
    Israel Eleazar Escandon (1996-2002) 10 (8) - 0 (0) – 1


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    Middleweights

    Young Mitchell (1885-1893) American Featherweight, Australian Lightweight,PC Welterweight, and PC Middleweight Claimant - 35-0-6 (BoxRec only has 5-0-4)
    Lester Jacobs (1989-2001) 29 (15) - 0 (0) - 0
    Laszlo Papp (1957-1964) EBU (European) Middleweight Champion - 27 (15) - 0 (0) - 2
    Scott Daley - (1986-1998) 24 (24) - 0 (0) – 0
    Mark Janssen (1982-1997) 23 (13) - 0 (0) - 0
    Antonio Perugino (1997-2003) 23 (8) - 0 (0) – 0
    Gaetano Ardito (1980-1985) 21 (12) - 0 (0) – 0
    Kenny Klingman (1977-1982) 20 (20) - 0 (0) – 0
    Sergio Mora (2000-2006) 19 (4) - 0 (0) - 0
    Jim Brown (1969-1972) 18 (6) - 0 (0) – 0
    Juan Carlos Ramirez (1993-1997) 17 (12) - 0 (0) - 1
    Stephon Frost (1985-1997) 16 (8) - 0 (0) - 1
    Nick Toretto (1943-1944) 16 (7) - 0 (0) - 0 Tony Dominguez (1988-2004) 16 (14) - 0 (0) – 0
    Charlie Spina (1940-1946) 15(10) - 0 (0)- 0
    Pedro Fernandez (1965-1967) 14 (10) - 0 (0) – 1
    Bill Miller (1955-1957) 14 (9) - 0 (0) – 2
    Elby Pettaway (1939-1940) 13 (7) - 0 (0) – 1
    Alex Mack (1967-1969) 13 (8) - 0 (0) - 0
    Conrad Williams (1966-1968) 12 (5) - 0 (0) - 0
    Francesco Cavalletti (1997-2000) 12 (7) - 0 (0) - 0
    Fathi Missaoui (1998-2001) 12 (7) - 0 (0) – 0
    Johnny Holt (1972-1976) 12 (5) - 0 (0) – 0
    Oleg Kudinow (1999-2001) 12 (10) - 0 (0) – 0
    Otis Gage (1991-2003) 12 (8) - 0 (0) - 0
    Juan Domingo Olmedo (1997-2001) 12 (2) - 0 (0) - 0
    Bob Berdahl (1957-1958) 11 (9) - 0 (0) – 0
    Han-Chul Kim (2000-2004) 11 (10) - 0 (0) – 0
    Anthony McFadden (1996-1999) 11 (5) - 0 (0) – 0
    Reggie Boyer (1983-1984) 11 (7) - 0 (0) – 0
    Sid Jones (1945-1946) 11 (7) - 0 (0) – 5
    Laszlo Szucs (1998-2006) 10 (5) - 0 (0) - 0
    Chuck Mince (1994-2000) 10 (5) - 0 (0) – 0
    Angelo La Mattina (1981-1982) 10 (5) - 0 (0) – 0
    Harold Mann (1963-1967) 10 (4) - 0 (0) - 0
    Ken Thayer (1942-1949) 10 (6) - 0 (0) - 1
    Jasper (Jerry) Colson (1951-1953) 10 (5) - 0 (0) – 0

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    Light Middleweights

    Romain Mianzula (1980-1985) 22 (9) - 0 (0) - 1
    Kirk Daley - (1988-1994) 19 (18) - 0 (0) - 0
    Mike Jankovich (1993-1999) 19 (12) - 0 (0) - 1
    Miguel Ramos (1992-2000) 16 (11) - 0 (0) - 1
    Guillermo Javier Saputo (2001-2005) 16 (10) - 0 (0) – 0
    Giuseppe Sauli (1991-1995) 15 (12) - 0 (0) - 0
    Helio Santana Lima (1985-1988) 15 (10) - 0 (0) - 0
    Aldo Nicchi (2002-2005) 13 (3) - 0 (0) – 0
    Mouraud Ferguene (1981-1987) 13 (11) - 0 (0) - 0
    Luciano Sorgon (1980-1982) 13 (6) - 0 (0) - 1
    Tommy Shiels (1986-1988) 11 (9) - 0 (0) - 0
    Fareed Samad (1997-2007) 10 (9) - 0 (0) - 0
    Luis Burgos (1998-2002) 10 (4) - 0 (0) - 1
    James Docherty (1998-2001) 10 (3) - 0 (0) - 0
    Youshia Pireh (2000-2004) 10 (1) - 0 (0) - 0
    Osumanu Adama (2001-2005) 10 (8) - 0 (0) – 0
    Artyom Opolinsky (2003-2005) 10 (4) - 0 (0) – 0
    Luigi Rosa (1965-1966) 10 (2) - 0 (0) - 3
    Vernon Payne (2000-2003) 10 (4) - 0 (0) – 0
    Christophe D****au (1991-1993) 10 (3) - 0 (0) - 0

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    Welterweights

    Paul Spadafora (1995-2007) The Pittsburgh Kid Welterweight 40 (16) - 0 (0) - 1
    Michael Loewe (1991-1997) WBO Welterweight Champion - 28 (10) - 0 (0) – 0
    Riad Menasria (1998-2006) 27 (9) - 0 (0) - 1
    Jimmy Carlini (1951-1954) 20 (7) - 0 (0) - 1
    Victor Manuel Purreta (1996-2004) 20 (8) - 0 (0) – 0
    John Coward (1990-1993) 18 (16) - 0 (0) – 1
    Arturo Morales (2002-2006) 17 (6) - 0 (0) - 1
    Vincenzo Pulcrano (1965-1975) 17 (7) - 0 (0) - 1
    Antonio Lima (1966-1970) 17 (12) - 0 (0) – 0
    David Gutierrez (1984-1987) 17 (9) - 0 (0) - 1
    Brian Powers (1986-1998) 17 (8) - 0 (0) – 1
    Vincenzo Moruzzi (1974-1977) 17 (3) - 0 (0) – 2
    Victor Puiu (2004-2006) 16 (8) - 0 (0) - 1
    Vinny Letizia - (1990-1993) 16 (14) - 0 (0) - 1
    Harry Albritton (1944-1948) 16 (5) - 0 (0) - 1
    Roberto Ayala (1970-1973) 16 (7) - 0 (0) - 1
    Ronnie Sampson (1963-1968) 16 (5) - 0 (0) - 2

    To be continued
    Last edited by mickey malone; 01-30-2010, 02:09 AM.

    #2
    IMO the vast majority quit because they most likely got KOd in the gym by sparring partners or realized that they was not going to make it in the pro-ranks... several quit due to injury, all this nonsence about being undefeated is meaningless.. 3 recent fighters spring to mind, Calzaghe, Ottke & Floyd Mayweather, yet they would have lost their undefeated record if they had fought certain fighters, its all about avoiding and ducking the best guys so as to hang on to their O ...

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      #3
      Welterweights continued


      Joe Devlin (1954-1960) 15 (8) - 0 (0) – 0
      Eiji Kimura (1983-1986) 15 (11) - 0 (0) – 1
      Anthony Halmaert (2002-2006) 14 (12) - 0 (0) - 0
      Billy Collins Jr. (1981-1983) 14 (11) - 0 (0) - 0
      Jimmy McMahon (1992-1994) 14 (6) - 0 (0) – 1
      Jackie Sherman (1932-1935) 14 (7) - 0 (0) - 0
      Johnny Compo (1979-1981) 13 (7) - 0 (0) – 1
      Andre Richardson (1984-1990) 13 (7) - 0 (0) – 0
      James Connors (1959-1961) 13 (7) - 0 (0) - 1
      Daniel Lynem (1994-2000) 12 (10) - 0 (0) - 0
      Herb Coady (1932-1936) 12 (7) - 0 (0) - 1
      Michael Schultz (1995-1998) 12 (7) - 0 (0) – 2
      Albert Legrand (1964-1965) 12 (1) - 0 (0) – 0
      Johnny Gonzalez (1974-1975) 12 (12) - 0 (0) – 0
      Marco Cattikas (2004-2006) 11 (4) - 0 (0) - 0
      Ebelardo Munoz (1963-1963) 11 (3) - 0 (0) – 0
      Rocky Wilson (1958-1959) 11 (7) - 0 (0) – 0
      Ivan Alvarez (2005-2006) 10 (8) - 0 (0) – 1
      Dmitrij Nikulin (2004-2006) 10 (4) - 0 (0) - 0
      Jimmy Mukalazi 2000-2002) 10 (6) - 0 (0) - 0
      Jimmy Connelly (1979-1982) 10 (6) - 0 (0) – 0
      Rolly Wilkes (1961-1963) 10 (6) - 0 (0) - 1
      Mario Pereyra (1965-1966) 10 (6) - 0 (0) - 1
      Kari Meronen (1969-1974) 10 (6) - 0 (0) - 0
      Leonard Monte (1959-1959) 10 (4) - 0 (0) – 0
      Pietro Callara (1978-1979) 10 (3) - 0 (0) - 0
      Tony Thomas (1941-1942) 10 (8) - 0 (0) - 0
      Charley Ellis (1965-1973) 10 (4) - 0 (0) – 0
      Kevin Wieding (2000-2002) 10 (4) - 0 (0) – 2

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      Light Welterweights

      Juan Carlos Gimenez (1969-1986) 27 (15) - 0 (0) – 4
      Terry Marsh (1981-1987) IBF Light Welterweight Champion - 26 (10) - 0 (0) – 1
      Vladimir Zykov (2002-2006) 18 (4) - 0 (0) – 0
      Faik Inan (2000-2006) 16 (3) - 0 (0) - 0
      Shaun Cooper (1988-1991) 16 (8) - 0 (0) – 0
      Lorenzo Reynolds (2004-2006) 15 (7) - 0 (0) - 0
      Mark Breslin (1994-1998) 15 (5) - 0 (0) - 0
      Mauricio Ariel Pereira (1997-2005) 14 (1) - 0 (0) - 1
      Robert Hernandez (1972-1974) 14 (6) - 0 (0) – 0
      Jason Arena (2001-2004) 12 (8) - 0 (0) - 1
      Soren Engelbrecht (2001-2004) 12 (9) - 0 (0) - 1
      Ross Richmond (1989-1990) 12 (3) - 0 (0) – 0
      Teppei Isomichi (2003-2006) 11 (7) - 0 (0) – 0
      Szymon Porebski (2004-2006) 11 (3) - 0 (0) - 0
      Ali Mohamed Akdi Amarouf (1998-2002) 11 (4) - 0 (0) – 0
      Jeff Styers (1988-1996) 11 (4) - 0 (0) – 0
      Ray Torres (1965-1967) 11 (3) - 0 (0) – 0
      Paul Walberg (2002-2006) 10 (2) - 0 (0) – 1
      Pedro Tapia (2004-2006) 10 (8) - 0 (0) - 0
      Melvin Cumba (1998-2005) 10 (5) - 0 (0) – 0
      Tenny Talbot (1936-1941) 10 (2) - 0 (0) – 2
      Bill Fofana (2000-2000) 10 (10) - 0 (0) – 0

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      Lightweights

      Edson Pedro Nascimento (1993-2004) UBC Ibero-American Lightweight Champion - 47 (40) - 0 (0) - 1
      Jimmy Wilde (Moisés Ortenberg) - (1935-1943) Argentina - 37 (15) - 0 (0) – 5
      Jack McAuliffe (1884-1897) World Lightweight Champion - 34 (23) - 0 (0) – 5
      Bobby Campbell (1935-1940) 30 (3) - 0 (0) - 3
      Juro ***uda (1941-1943) 28 (15) - 0 (0) - 1
      Favio Catalino Romero (1996-2001) 23 (22) - 0 (0) - 0
      Dave Williams (1978-1981) 20 (15) - 0 (0) - 1
      Bobby McHugh (1955-1957) 18 (13) - 0 (0) - 0
      Milton Krompier (1930-1932) 17 (5) - 0 (0) - 0
      Dion Murphy (1962-1966) 17 (9) - 0 (0) – 0
      Freddie Reyes (1980-1983) 17 (8) - 0 (0) - 2
      Dino Fontana (1964-1970) 17 (3) - 0 (0) – 0
      Vasyl Tarabarov (2001-2006) 16 (7) - 0 (0) - 1
      Shane Knox (1985-1991) 16 (10) - 0 (0) – 0
      Maxie Koshover (1930-1934) 14 (4) - 0 (0) – 0
      John Baker Muwanga (1978-1982) 14 (6) - 0 (0) - 0
      Paul Woods (1939-1944) 13 (5) - 0 (0) – 3
      Ray Schlamp (1960-1964) 13 (13) - 0 (0) - 0
      Alexis Macias (1990-1996) 13 (7) - 0 (0) – 1
      Martin Coscino (1950-1957) 13 (2) - 0 (0) – 0
      Bobby Batilla (1932-1934) 13 (5) - 0 (0) – 1
      Ralph Ruelas (1970-1971) 12 (9) - 0 (0) - 1
      Oronde Dawley (2002-2005) 12 (4) - 0 (0) – 1
      Dan Toriani (1957-1959) 12 (11) - 0 (0) - 2
      Jeff Mason (1992-1998) 12 (6) - 0 (0) - 0
      Levent Cukur (1998-2002) 12 (0) - 0 (0) – 0
      Angelo Provenzano (1977-1978) 12 (4) - 0 (0) – 0
      Mirko Wolf (2001-2006) 11 (6) - 0 (0) - 2
      Lew Mendelhson (1932-1937) 11 (4) - 0 (0) - 1
      Donnie Nelson (1974-1975) 11 (6) - 0 (0) – 0
      Mickey Rosati (1954-1955) 11 (3) - 0 (0) – 1
      Henry Costoza (1962-1967) 11 (1) - 0 (0) - 0
      Joey August (1932-1938) 11 (6) - 0 (0) - 1
      Frankie Romero (1948-1952) 11 (4) - 0 (0) – 5
      Frankie Brasio (1931-1935) 11 (4) - 0 (0) - 1
      Ben Cruz (2003-2004) 11 (7) - 0 (0) – 0
      Roger Sanders (2004-2006) 10 (10) - 0 (0) - 0
      Koichi ***uda (1974-1975) 10 (8) - 0 (0) – 0
      George Walker (1956-1958) 10 (2) - 0 (0) – 0
      Monty Sherrick (1984-1985) 10 (2) - 0 (0) - 0
      Jose Rivera (1970-1974) 10 (2) - 0 (0) – 3
      James Cooke (1978-1983) 10 (5) - 0 (0) - 1
      Fujimi Victorygym (2003-2004) 10 (1) - 0 (0) – 0
      George Kucera (1928-1929) 10 (5) - 0 (0) - 0

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      Super Featherweights

      Joan Guzman (1997-2006) 27 (17) - 0 (0) - 0
      Mike Garcia (1992-1998) 26 (18) - 0 (0) - 0
      Cliff Sarmardin Australian Super Featherweight & Victorian Lightweight Champion (1991-1995) 24 (14) - 0 (0) – 0
      Irving Pierre Louis (1990-1996) 17 (5) - 0 (0) - 0
      Hugo Lewis (1994-2004) 16 (12) - 0 (0) – 2
      Jerome Pillow (1997-2006) 14 (10) - 0 (0) - 0
      Kevin Lear WBU Super Featherweight Champion (1999-2002) 14 (6) - 0 (0) – 0
      Ricardo Silva (1997-2002) 14 (8) - 0 (0) - 0
      Shoji Otani (1969-1971) 14 (9) - 0 (0) – 0
      Bobby Tomasello (1997-2000) 14 (6) - 0 (0) - 1
      Jesus Vega (1996-2003) 14 (3) - 0 (0) - 2
      Jimmy Di Mauro (1936-1940) 13 (6) - 0 (0) - 1
      Franco Canini (1980-1981) 12 (1) - 0 (0) - 0
      Erdal Kiran (2000-2005) 12 (7) - 0 (0) – 3
      Matt Remillard (2005-2006) 11 (7) - 0 (0) - 0
      Luis Perez (1998-2002) 11 (7) - 0 (0) – 1
      Hisashi Maeshiro (2004-2006) 10 (3) - 0 (0) - 0
      Jorge Roberto De Oliveira (2001-2004) 10 (8) - 0 (0) – 0

      Featherweights

      Lakhin Vasansit (1993-2006) 28 (18) - 0 (0) - 2
      Chul Kwon (1980-1987) 25 (17) - 0 (0) - 1
      Gene Robnett (1950-1953) 22 (3) - 0 (0) – 0
      Joe Reinhart (1926-1933) 18 (8) - 0 (0) – 1
      Alejandro Barrera (1998-2005) 18 (12) - 0 (0) – 0
      Danny Flores (1998-2004) 17 (3) - 0 (0) - 2
      Jamie Carabello (1954-1955) 15 (9) - 0 (0) - 1
      Ibrahim Vural (1997-2001) 15 (3) - 0 (0) - 0
      Clarence (Babe) Spencer (1935-1939) 14 (8) - 0 (0) – 1
      Johnny Monroe (1917-1923) 14 (3) - 0 (0) – 2
      Ahmed Elomar (2004-2006) 13 (6) - 0 (0) - 2
      Ricardo Lara (1958-1961) 13 (7) - 0 (0) – 1
      Ken Calderwood (1960-1962) 13 (1) - 0 (0) – 0
      Ed (KO) Morgan (1935-1936) 13 (12) - 0 (0) - 0
      Juan Martinez (1989-1993) 12 (3) - 0 (0) – 4
      Mickey Boyson (1930-1932) 12 (5) - 0 (0) - 1
      Horian Montiel (1996-2001) 11 (5) - 0 (0) – 0
      Paul Lucas (1984-1991) 11 (8) - 0 (0) – 1
      Jay McCombs (1963-1966) 11 (2) - 0 (0) - 0
      Mickey Cooney (1927-1929) 10 (4) - 0 (0) – 3
      Red Robbins (1927-1930) 10 (10) - 0 (0) - 2

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      Super Bantamweights

      Gabula Vabaza (1996-2006) 23 (15) - 0 (0) - 1
      Jemal Hinton (1988-1992) WBC Continental Americas Super Bantamweight Campion - 22 (17) - 0 (0) – 0
      Saenghiran Lookbanyai (2003-2006) 20 (15) - 0 (0) - 0
      Ji Won Kim (1982-1986) IBF Super Bantamweight Champion - 16 (7) - 0 (0) – 2
      Rudy Dominguez (2001-2004) 11 (2) - 0 (0) – 1
      Jean-Marie Gambino (1984-1987) 10 (6) - 0 (0) - 1

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      Bantamweights

      Jimmy Barry (1891-1899) World Paperweight Champion (110lbs) - 58 (38) - 0 (0) - 10
      Agustin Senin – (1967-1972) Spanish & EBU (European) Bantamweight Champion - 42 (21) - 0 (0) – 1
      Hilaire Pratesi (1952-1955) French Bantamweight Champion 26 (14) - 0 (0) – 1
      Marcos Oscar Garro (1993-1998) Argentine (FAB), South American Bantamweight Champion 21 (9) - 0 (0) - 0
      Mzukisi Skweyiya (1973-1978) South African Non-White Bantamweight Champion - 21 (7) - 0 (0) – 1
      Louis Gomis (1983-1987) 18 (6) - 0 (0) – 1
      Jose Nieves (2001-2006) 16 (8) - 0 (0) - 2
      Takashi Matsuo (1987-1995) 16 (10) - 0 (0) - 0
      Bonele Joyi (1993-2002) 15 (5) - 0 (0) – 1
      Jose Carballo (1984-1990) 14 (14) - 0 (0) - 1
      Giovanni Carboni (1960-1966) 13 (2) - 0 (0) - 0


      Super Flyweights

      Samson Dutch Boy Gym (1992-2002) WBF Super Flyweight Champion - 43 (36) - 0 (0) – 0
      Felix Castillo (1980-1985) 17 (13) - 0 (0) – 0
      Victor Proa (2004-2006) 14 (10) - 0 (0) - 0
      Lamhot Simamora Indonesian & OPBF Super Flyweight Champion (1990-1995) 10 (3) - 0 (0) – 1

      Flyweights

      Pichit Sit****prachan (1988-2000) IBF Flyweight Champion 24 (18) - 0 (0) – 0
      Sung-Tae Lim (1991-1996) 18 (3) - 0 (0) – 2
      Servilio de Oliveira (1969-1977) South American Flyweight Champion 16 (9) - 0 (0) – 0
      Bernard Marshall (1950-1951) 12 (6) - 0 (0) - 3
      Ramases Patterson (1997-2002) 11 (2) - 0 (0) – 0
      Maxsaisai Pinsinchai (2004-2006) 10 (4) - 0 (0) – 0

      Light Flyweights

      Ricardo Lopez (1985-2001) IBF Light Flyweight Champion 51 (38) - 0 (0) - 1

      Minimumweights (6)

      Nkosinathi Joyi (2002-2006) 17 (12) - 0 (0) - 0

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      Comment


        #4
        Welterweights continued


        Joe Devlin (1954-1960) 15 (8) - 0 (0) – 0
        Eiji Kimura (1983-1986) 15 (11) - 0 (0) – 1
        Anthony Halmaert (2002-2006) 14 (12) - 0 (0) - 0
        Billy Collins Jr. (1981-1983) 14 (11) - 0 (0) - 0
        Jimmy McMahon (1992-1994) 14 (6) - 0 (0) – 1
        Jackie Sherman (1932-1935) 14 (7) - 0 (0) - 0
        Johnny Compo (1979-1981) 13 (7) - 0 (0) – 1
        Andre Richardson (1984-1990) 13 (7) - 0 (0) – 0
        James Connors (1959-1961) 13 (7) - 0 (0) - 1
        Daniel Lynem (1994-2000) 12 (10) - 0 (0) - 0
        Herb Coady (1932-1936) 12 (7) - 0 (0) - 1
        Michael Schultz (1995-1998) 12 (7) - 0 (0) – 2
        Albert Legrand (1964-1965) 12 (1) - 0 (0) – 0
        Johnny Gonzalez (1974-1975) 12 (12) - 0 (0) – 0
        Marco Cattikas (2004-2006) 11 (4) - 0 (0) - 0
        Ebelardo Munoz (1963-1963) 11 (3) - 0 (0) – 0
        Rocky Wilson (1958-1959) 11 (7) - 0 (0) – 0
        Ivan Alvarez (2005-2006) 10 (8) - 0 (0) – 1
        Dmitrij Nikulin (2004-2006) 10 (4) - 0 (0) - 0
        Jimmy Mukalazi 2000-2002) 10 (6) - 0 (0) - 0
        Jimmy Connelly (1979-1982) 10 (6) - 0 (0) – 0
        Rolly Wilkes (1961-1963) 10 (6) - 0 (0) - 1
        Mario Pereyra (1965-1966) 10 (6) - 0 (0) - 1
        Kari Meronen (1969-1974) 10 (6) - 0 (0) - 0
        Leonard Monte (1959-1959) 10 (4) - 0 (0) – 0
        Pietro Callara (1978-1979) 10 (3) - 0 (0) - 0
        Tony Thomas (1941-1942) 10 (8) - 0 (0) - 0
        Charley Ellis (1965-1973) 10 (4) - 0 (0) – 0
        Kevin Wieding (2000-2002) 10 (4) - 0 (0) – 2

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        Light Welterweights

        Juan Carlos Gimenez (1969-1986) 27 (15) - 0 (0) – 4
        Terry Marsh (1981-1987) IBF Light Welterweight Champion - 26 (10) - 0 (0) – 1
        Vladimir Zykov (2002-2006) 18 (4) - 0 (0) – 0
        Faik Inan (2000-2006) 16 (3) - 0 (0) - 0
        Shaun Cooper (1988-1991) 16 (8) - 0 (0) – 0
        Lorenzo Reynolds (2004-2006) 15 (7) - 0 (0) - 0
        Mark Breslin (1994-1998) 15 (5) - 0 (0) - 0
        Mauricio Ariel Pereira (1997-2005) 14 (1) - 0 (0) - 1
        Robert Hernandez (1972-1974) 14 (6) - 0 (0) – 0
        Jason Arena (2001-2004) 12 (8) - 0 (0) - 1
        Soren Engelbrecht (2001-2004) 12 (9) - 0 (0) - 1
        Ross Richmond (1989-1990) 12 (3) - 0 (0) – 0
        Teppei Isomichi (2003-2006) 11 (7) - 0 (0) – 0
        Szymon Porebski (2004-2006) 11 (3) - 0 (0) - 0
        Ali Mohamed Akdi Amarouf (1998-2002) 11 (4) - 0 (0) – 0
        Jeff Styers (1988-1996) 11 (4) - 0 (0) – 0
        Ray Torres (1965-1967) 11 (3) - 0 (0) – 0
        Paul Walberg (2002-2006) 10 (2) - 0 (0) – 1
        Pedro Tapia (2004-2006) 10 (8) - 0 (0) - 0
        Melvin Cumba (1998-2005) 10 (5) - 0 (0) – 0
        Tenny Talbot (1936-1941) 10 (2) - 0 (0) – 2
        Bill Fofana (2000-2000) 10 (10) - 0 (0) – 0

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        Lightweights

        Edson Pedro Nascimento (1993-2004) UBC Ibero-American Lightweight Champion - 47 (40) - 0 (0) - 1
        Jimmy Wilde (Moisés Ortenberg) - (1935-1943) Argentina - 37 (15) - 0 (0) – 5
        Jack McAuliffe (1884-1897) World Lightweight Champion - 34 (23) - 0 (0) – 5
        Bobby Campbell (1935-1940) 30 (3) - 0 (0) - 3
        Juro ***uda (1941-1943) 28 (15) - 0 (0) - 1
        Favio Catalino Romero (1996-2001) 23 (22) - 0 (0) - 0
        Dave Williams (1978-1981) 20 (15) - 0 (0) - 1
        Bobby McHugh (1955-1957) 18 (13) - 0 (0) - 0
        Milton Krompier (1930-1932) 17 (5) - 0 (0) - 0
        Dion Murphy (1962-1966) 17 (9) - 0 (0) – 0
        Freddie Reyes (1980-1983) 17 (8) - 0 (0) - 2
        Dino Fontana (1964-1970) 17 (3) - 0 (0) – 0
        Vasyl Tarabarov (2001-2006) 16 (7) - 0 (0) - 1
        Shane Knox (1985-1991) 16 (10) - 0 (0) – 0
        Maxie Koshover (1930-1934) 14 (4) - 0 (0) – 0
        John Baker Muwanga (1978-1982) 14 (6) - 0 (0) - 0
        Paul Woods (1939-1944) 13 (5) - 0 (0) – 3
        Ray Schlamp (1960-1964) 13 (13) - 0 (0) - 0
        Alexis Macias (1990-1996) 13 (7) - 0 (0) – 1
        Martin Coscino (1950-1957) 13 (2) - 0 (0) – 0
        Bobby Batilla (1932-1934) 13 (5) - 0 (0) – 1
        Ralph Ruelas (1970-1971) 12 (9) - 0 (0) - 1
        Oronde Dawley (2002-2005) 12 (4) - 0 (0) – 1
        Dan Toriani (1957-1959) 12 (11) - 0 (0) - 2
        Jeff Mason (1992-1998) 12 (6) - 0 (0) - 0
        Levent Cukur (1998-2002) 12 (0) - 0 (0) – 0
        Angelo Provenzano (1977-1978) 12 (4) - 0 (0) – 0
        Mirko Wolf (2001-2006) 11 (6) - 0 (0) - 2
        Lew Mendelhson (1932-1937) 11 (4) - 0 (0) - 1
        Donnie Nelson (1974-1975) 11 (6) - 0 (0) – 0
        Mickey Rosati (1954-1955) 11 (3) - 0 (0) – 1
        Henry Costoza (1962-1967) 11 (1) - 0 (0) - 0
        Joey August (1932-1938) 11 (6) - 0 (0) - 1
        Frankie Romero (1948-1952) 11 (4) - 0 (0) – 5
        Frankie Brasio (1931-1935) 11 (4) - 0 (0) - 1
        Ben Cruz (2003-2004) 11 (7) - 0 (0) – 0
        Roger Sanders (2004-2006) 10 (10) - 0 (0) - 0
        Koichi ***uda (1974-1975) 10 (8) - 0 (0) – 0
        George Walker (1956-1958) 10 (2) - 0 (0) – 0
        Monty Sherrick (1984-1985) 10 (2) - 0 (0) - 0
        Jose Rivera (1970-1974) 10 (2) - 0 (0) – 3
        James Cooke (1978-1983) 10 (5) - 0 (0) - 1
        Fujimi Victorygym (2003-2004) 10 (1) - 0 (0) – 0
        George Kucera (1928-1929) 10 (5) - 0 (0) - 0

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        Super Featherweights

        Joan Guzman (1997-2006) 27 (17) - 0 (0) - 0
        Mike Garcia (1992-1998) 26 (18) - 0 (0) - 0
        Cliff Sarmardin Australian Super Featherweight & Victorian Lightweight Champion (1991-1995) 24 (14) - 0 (0) – 0
        Irving Pierre Louis (1990-1996) 17 (5) - 0 (0) - 0
        Hugo Lewis (1994-2004) 16 (12) - 0 (0) – 2
        Jerome Pillow (1997-2006) 14 (10) - 0 (0) - 0
        Kevin Lear WBU Super Featherweight Champion (1999-2002) 14 (6) - 0 (0) – 0
        Ricardo Silva (1997-2002) 14 (8) - 0 (0) - 0
        Shoji Otani (1969-1971) 14 (9) - 0 (0) – 0
        Bobby Tomasello (1997-2000) 14 (6) - 0 (0) - 1
        Jesus Vega (1996-2003) 14 (3) - 0 (0) - 2
        Jimmy Di Mauro (1936-1940) 13 (6) - 0 (0) - 1
        Franco Canini (1980-1981) 12 (1) - 0 (0) - 0
        Erdal Kiran (2000-2005) 12 (7) - 0 (0) – 3
        Matt Remillard (2005-2006) 11 (7) - 0 (0) - 0
        Luis Perez (1998-2002) 11 (7) - 0 (0) – 1
        Hisashi Maeshiro (2004-2006) 10 (3) - 0 (0) - 0
        Jorge Roberto De Oliveira (2001-2004) 10 (8) - 0 (0) – 0

        Featherweights

        Lakhin Vasansit (1993-2006) 28 (18) - 0 (0) - 2
        Chul Kwon (1980-1987) 25 (17) - 0 (0) - 1
        Gene Robnett (1950-1953) 22 (3) - 0 (0) – 0
        Joe Reinhart (1926-1933) 18 (8) - 0 (0) – 1
        Alejandro Barrera (1998-2005) 18 (12) - 0 (0) – 0
        Danny Flores (1998-2004) 17 (3) - 0 (0) - 2
        Jamie Carabello (1954-1955) 15 (9) - 0 (0) - 1
        Ibrahim Vural (1997-2001) 15 (3) - 0 (0) - 0
        Clarence (Babe) Spencer (1935-1939) 14 (8) - 0 (0) – 1
        Johnny Monroe (1917-1923) 14 (3) - 0 (0) – 2
        Ahmed Elomar (2004-2006) 13 (6) - 0 (0) - 2
        Ricardo Lara (1958-1961) 13 (7) - 0 (0) – 1
        Ken Calderwood (1960-1962) 13 (1) - 0 (0) – 0
        Ed (KO) Morgan (1935-1936) 13 (12) - 0 (0) - 0
        Juan Martinez (1989-1993) 12 (3) - 0 (0) – 4
        Mickey Boyson (1930-1932) 12 (5) - 0 (0) - 1
        Horian Montiel (1996-2001) 11 (5) - 0 (0) – 0
        Paul Lucas (1984-1991) 11 (8) - 0 (0) – 1
        Jay McCombs (1963-1966) 11 (2) - 0 (0) - 0
        Mickey Cooney (1927-1929) 10 (4) - 0 (0) – 3
        Red Robbins (1927-1930) 10 (10) - 0 (0) - 2

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        Super Bantamweights

        Gabula Vabaza (1996-2006) 23 (15) - 0 (0) - 1
        Jemal Hinton (1988-1992) WBC Continental Americas Super Bantamweight Campion - 22 (17) - 0 (0) – 0
        Saenghiran Lookbanyai (2003-2006) 20 (15) - 0 (0) - 0
        Ji Won Kim (1982-1986) IBF Super Bantamweight Champion - 16 (7) - 0 (0) – 2
        Rudy Dominguez (2001-2004) 11 (2) - 0 (0) – 1
        Jean-Marie Gambino (1984-1987) 10 (6) - 0 (0) - 1

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        Bantamweights

        Jimmy Barry (1891-1899) World Paperweight Champion (110lbs) - 58 (38) - 0 (0) - 10
        Agustin Senin – (1967-1972) Spanish & EBU (European) Bantamweight Champion - 42 (21) - 0 (0) – 1
        Hilaire Pratesi (1952-1955) French Bantamweight Champion 26 (14) - 0 (0) – 1
        Marcos Oscar Garro (1993-1998) Argentine (FAB), South American Bantamweight Champion 21 (9) - 0 (0) - 0
        Mzukisi Skweyiya (1973-1978) South African Non-White Bantamweight Champion - 21 (7) - 0 (0) – 1
        Louis Gomis (1983-1987) 18 (6) - 0 (0) – 1
        Jose Nieves (2001-2006) 16 (8) - 0 (0) - 2
        Takashi Matsuo (1987-1995) 16 (10) - 0 (0) - 0
        Bonele Joyi (1993-2002) 15 (5) - 0 (0) – 1
        Jose Carballo (1984-1990) 14 (14) - 0 (0) - 1
        Giovanni Carboni (1960-1966) 13 (2) - 0 (0) - 0


        Super Flyweights

        Samson Dutch Boy Gym (1992-2002) WBF Super Flyweight Champion - 43 (36) - 0 (0) – 0
        Felix Castillo (1980-1985) 17 (13) - 0 (0) – 0
        Victor Proa (2004-2006) 14 (10) - 0 (0) - 0
        Lamhot Simamora Indonesian & OPBF Super Flyweight Champion (1990-1995) 10 (3) - 0 (0) – 1

        Flyweights

        Pichit Sit****prachan (1988-2000) IBF Flyweight Champion 24 (18) - 0 (0) – 0
        Sung-Tae Lim (1991-1996) 18 (3) - 0 (0) – 2
        Servilio de Oliveira (1969-1977) South American Flyweight Champion 16 (9) - 0 (0) – 0
        Bernard Marshall (1950-1951) 12 (6) - 0 (0) - 3
        Ramases Patterson (1997-2002) 11 (2) - 0 (0) – 0
        Maxsaisai Pinsinchai (2004-2006) 10 (4) - 0 (0) – 0

        Light Flyweights

        Ricardo Lopez (1985-2001) IBF Light Flyweight Champion 51 (38) - 0 (0) - 1

        Minimumweights (6)

        Nkosinathi Joyi (2002-2006) 17 (12) - 0 (0) - 0

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        Comment


          #5
          Although as already pointed out by Sonnyboy, the majority of the fighters mentioned, probably were non-enterties, but these lists give us exposure to fighters like Shazzon Bradley, who i mentioned earlier, and who Mike Katz deemed as interesting enough to do an article on in 1998..

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          BOXER'S TOUGHEST FIGHT IS BEHIND HIM
          By MICHAEL KATZ

          Friday, May 8th 1998, 2:04AM

          It's been almost 10 years since he made $5.5 million knocking down Sugar Ray Leonard, and the old Golden Boy is now a dark-haired man of 38, but here he is again, fighting May 28 at the Westchester County Center in White Plains.

          "I'm a sick man," Donnie LaLonde, the former light-heavyweight champion, said yesterday at an All Star Cafe press conference, insisting he still was financially affluent.

          "I'm addicted to this game. Besides, I can't afford (hair) dye. But don't write about me until I fight contenders (he's going to meet either Kevin Pompey, the former welterweight, or Glen Wolfe on the Westchester card). There's the guy who has a story."

          He pointed to Shazzon Bradley, an undefeated heavyweight who, if he can fight, is a miniseries. Bradley said he was conceived by an act of ****. He was an abused child ("a whuppin' wasn't a whuppin', it was a killin' "), he said in a soft country accent. He ran away from his Athens, Tenn., home at the age of 9 and eventually was raised at the expense of his county. He slept at times in office buildings, cars and homes of friends. At the age of 11, he was diagnosed as ******ed.

          At 16, he watched his biological father get murdered.

          He subsequently graduated from the University of Tennessee with a degree in criminology. He was a four-year defensive star in football, starting at middle linebacker, and was drafted in the ninth round by the Green Bay Packers in 1991 as a tackle, failing the last cut.

          His interest in boxing, he said yesterday, was a "weird story. My biological father was a nice guy. I don't know what happened with my mother. I think they were friends, maybe it was date ****. My mother told me I was conceived by the act of **** when I was 7 or 8 and I never asked details because I didn't want to bring her (memory) back to when it happened.

          "But I really liked my father and I was always his little boy. One Saturday night, I was 16 and never went to clubs or drank I still have never touched a drop or smoked anything my friends said they were going out. I said no, but for some reason I got in my car and drove to the club. There was a fight going on, I'm still in the car, and I'm watching these guys start stabbing this guy all the way to the ground and he's fighting them all the way. I went home thinking, what a fighter, that's what I want to be."

          Later, he was told his father was stabbed to death.

          "I feel bad because I didn't get involved, but I think that's the night I became a fighter," said Bradley.

          He is 16-0 with 15 KOs, mostly on the weak Tennessee circuit, but advertised as the "world's hardest puncher." He fights Mitch Sammon, "world's toughest man," in White Plains.
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          He went on to knock Sammon cold in the opening round, and continued his winning streak with wins over veteran trial horses, Sedrick Fields, Everett Martin, Marion Wilson and Jeff Pegues who he also disposed of in the 1st..
          He was 21-0-0 (17KO) and retires.. Does anyone know why?

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            #6
            That's alot of 0s.

            Comment


              #7
              mickey malone, thanks for the kind words and yes you and/or anyone else can use any information that I pass along.

              My list actually covers anyone that had 5 or more wins. The list has 1,300 boxers.

              I found some old time Black fighters that haven't been beaten:

              1. Edgar Washington Blue (152-172) 7-0-2
              2. Eugene Bullard (156) 1-0-2
              3. Juluis Caesar - Billed as the Champion Middleweight of all colored men in America and England. - 2-0-3
              4. Charles Kemmic - Welterweight Champion of the Northwest - 28-0-4 (1 NC) ??
              5. Harry Gustavus Levette - (145) - 9-0-0
              6. Joe Cotton (150) - 11-0-9
              7. Jack Dorsey (125) - 10-0-0
              8. James Godfrey (167) - 4-0-6
              9. Samuel Grant (158) - 9-0-1
              10. Joe Green - (147) - 1-0-0 - Note: He stopped and killed George Goodrich in the 2nd round on February 4, 1893.
              11. Bob Smith (the "Liverpool Darkey") - Black Bare Knuckle Boxer - 4-0
              12. James Wharton ("Moroccan Prince" ("Young Molineaux") ("Jemmy the Black") - Black Bare Knuckle Boxer - 9-0-1

              Also,

              Paul Spadafora (1995-2009) The Pittsburgh Kid Welterweight 40 (16) - 0 (0) - 1

              Harry Simon (1994-2007) The Terminator light middleweight 24 (17) - 0 (0) - 0. He has to be added to the list, as he is now retired.


              Thanks once again, Henry Hascup
              Last edited by hhascup; 01-30-2010, 09:35 PM.

              Comment


                #8
                Heavyweights
                Of course the obvious Joe Mesi

                and 21-0 Shazzon Bradley 1993-1999


                Thats what you're looking for right?

                Comment


                  #9
                  mickey malone, thanks for the kind words and yes you and/or anyone else can use any information that I pass along.

                  My list actually covers anyone that had 5 or more wins. The list has 1,300 boxers.

                  Good on ya Henry, keep up the good work!

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by mickey malone View Post
                    mickey malone, thanks for the kind words and yes you and/or anyone else can use any information that I pass along.

                    My list actually covers anyone that had 5 or more wins. The list has 1,300 boxers.

                    Good on ya Henry, keep up the good work!
                    I'm glad you all have gotten a chance to meet Henry, all the more so since he's been making periodic posts here again Henry is a class guy who's forgotten more about boxing than I'm ever likely to know. I actually met him originally on another boxing site and engaged in one or two debates with him. I may not agree with him on everything but I have nothing but respect for the man and hope he becomes at least a semi-regular here

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