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    #31
    says the person in the red.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Marcov View Post
      Where do you get all this stuff? For the record Hagler worked his way to the number 1 position the hard way(unlike nowdays). And when he was #1 he couldn't get a title shot! Ring ****zine started calling him the uncrowned champion. During one year he waited for a shot he defeated 5 top ten contenders(In one year)! that was amazing and unheard of today. He got his shot and they gave Vito a draw. So he went back and beat two more top ten contenders! Now days a fighter doesn't have to beat one contender to get a title shot. He won and held the unified title for years in dominating fashion. He beat the best of the best for years. Sure later in his career Duran and Leonard did good with him, but they are all time greats(IMO).

      And Dwight Braxton who had changed his name to Dwight Muhammad Qawi years before the Leonard-Hagler fight was fighting as a cruiserweight for years before Leonard Hagler!
      Are you saying Hearns did not break his right-hand in the opening round with Hagler?

      i have addressed the Hagler vs Braxton topic above.

      name for me the 5 Top 10 contenders Marvin Hagler fought in the year he was waiting to fight Antuofermo? from my memory they was 5 tomato cans... when Hagler fought Antuofermo they fought to a draw and IMO that fight was a DRAW Hagler certainly never took the title off Antuofermo..

      I am in no-way knocking Marvin Hagler, he was a very good fighter & champion, but lets be clear here about his victories and his limitations.

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        #33
        Originally posted by boxing_great View Post
        says the person in the red.

        It's not difficult to go around kissing everybody's behind on this forum.Some users(such as myself)feel that we are entitled to have a mind and opinion of our own.

        Perhaps you should learn this too.

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          #34
          Hagler was a bully who only wanted to fight guys from the lower-weight divisions when he was champion..
          Duran - lightweight
          Mugabi - Light-middleweight
          Hearns - Welterweight
          Leonard - Welterweight
          Antuofermo - Light-middleweight

          Yet Dwight Braxton who was only 5ft 6ins tall Hagler wanted nothing to do with him.

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            #35
            Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View Post
            Hagler was a bully who only wanted to fight guys from the lower-weight divisions when he was champion..
            Duran - lightweight
            Mugabi - Light-middleweight
            Hearns - Welterweight
            Leonard - Welterweight
            Antuofermo - Light-middleweight

            Yet Dwight Braxton who was only 5ft 6ins tall Hagler wanted nothing to do with him.

            Don't forget Benitez,Hagler always mentioned Benitez along with Hearns and Leonard.

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              #36
              Originally posted by donkim View Post
              Don't forget Benitez,Hagler always mentioned Benitez along with Hearns and Leonard.
              very true my friend, i know you know your stuff- cheers!

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                #37
                Originally posted by donkim View Post
                It's not difficult to go around kissing everybody's behind on this forum.Some users(such as myself)feel that we are entitled to have a mind and opinion of our own.

                Perhaps you should learn this too.
                I never do, just seems that everybody doesn't see sense in what you have to say.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View Post
                  i would not call Haglers win over Duran `Handily`Hagler won by 1pt on all judges scorecards, he won it by winning the last round, after the final bell Hagler awaited the decision with his left-eye swollen shut and bleeding from the mouth, he looked over at Duran and Duran shouted to him "You aint no Marvelous".

                  If you think Hagler `squeeked` the fight then you was not watching the same fight as i watched... Leonard clearly won!

                  Juan Roldan floored Hagler... if Hearns had not broken his famous right-hand in the opening round he would have won via TKO in 3rds.. referee Richard Steele took Hagler over to the ringside doctor at the start of the 3rd such was the injuries Hagler recieved in the 1st round... so it is far from being a `stretch` to claim Hearns would have won via TKO

                  Mugabi was never Haglers mandatory... Mugabi moved up from Light-middle... Hagler v Leonard was never on the cards unto after the Mugabi fight.

                  No i am not adding Hagler to the Lewis list, Hagler was undisputed champion of the world for 7yrs where as Lewis abregated his responsibilities as undisputed champion by refusing to face the No1 contenders so was stripped of every belt... but if that is the only way you can have a snipe at me, then fire-away!

                  Dwight Braxton was light-heavyweight champion 1981-83 Marvin Hagler was middleweight champion 1980-87 ... many Ring ****zine, KO ****zine & Boxing Monthly fight publications from 81-83 had/have front cover topics of "Will Marvin move up and challenge The Camden Buzzsaw" it was a huge fight that fight-fans wanted to see, but Hagler wanted nothing to do with Braxton, instead he chose to fight Obelmejias (twice) Scypion, Lee, Hamsho, Antuofermo and light-weight Roberto Duran.
                  Source :-- check Ebay for Ring, KO ****zines from 81-83 i am sure you will come across this match-up many times over...

                  The way i seen Hagler vs Leonard it was a whupping!... the way ringside reporters like Gil Clancy, Colin Hart & Reg Gutteridge seen it, it was a whupping.
                  1. The Roldan knockdown was a slip. No-one ever floored Hagler - his chin was supreme!

                  2. Tommy caught Hagler with his best punch and he barely backed him up half a step.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View Post
                    Hagler was a bully who only wanted to fight guys from the lower-weight divisions when he was champion..
                    Duran - lightweight
                    Mugabi - Light-middleweight
                    Hearns - Welterweight
                    Leonard - Welterweight
                    Antuofermo - Light-middleweight

                    Yet Dwight Braxton who was only 5ft 6ins tall Hagler wanted nothing to do with him.
                    Haha. Drivel.

                    Antuofermo was the MW champion when Hagler fought him you dunce.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by andrewcuff View Post
                      Haha. Drivel.

                      Antuofermo was the MW champion when Hagler fought him you dunce.
                      Antuofermo was European Light-Middleweight champion when Britains Maurice Hope poleaxed him in the last round he then moved up in weight to campaign at 160lbs

                      Hagler was floored by a left-hook from Roldan and took a standing 8 count when he got to his feet.

                      Thomas Hearns smashed Haglers face open in the opening round with his punches, he broke his famous right-hand and must have been in tremendous pain the next 2 round.. whats to say if he had not broken his hand that he would not have KOd Hagler? he KOd Roberto Duran!

                      so IMO its you who is the dunce talking drivel.
                      Last edited by sonnyboyx2; 12-24-2009, 08:05 AM.

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