Vargas vs Cotto at 160 in 2008?

[Mike_b]

This would be elferozs last hurrah, after the losses to Mosley and Mayorga. Let's say at a catchweight of 160 to be fair. Quite frankly Vargas has fought Ricardo Mayorga at 168 for his final fight, growing out the Jr and middleweight divisions.

Then we've got Cotto, the unbeaten welterweight steamtlrolling cats until he took his first L from a prime Antonio margarito. People say that bout ruined him (Cotto). All I know is that in 2008 Cotto was some kind of animal, did not know how to lose yet, confidence at a sky high.

Let's say he moves up 2 weight classes to 160? It's not like he never went that high , you see he eventually fought for the middle weight title against Sergio Martinez.

So a Studley prime Cotto moving up 2 weight classes to meet el Feroz at 160, and Vargas who could still make 160 (he's been as low as 154) for his final (for real) last fight before he hangs them up as his final goodbye. Who wins?

Imo Cotto had a bit of a mean streak going on. All business in the ring, but a burning rage underneath it. Then el Feroz with his blood and guts stuff, he'd rather die on his shield than go out on his back. The level of machismo would be at a high setting, the pride of both countries where we've seen numerous wars: Puerto Rico vs mexico.

Feroz has the size and strength advantage as well as the experience. Cotto, just a bull, a bulldog or a pitbull, knocking fools senseless. Does youth and confidence erase out pride and being intelligent and then being brave? Or does the chip on the shoulder mexican grind and wear down the smaller younger boricua? Both had some dog in them, k9 like.

[JAB5239]

Cotto the much better fighter with a lot more left in the tank than Vargas at this point. Late stoppage for Cotto, who starts getting broken down from Miguel's body attack after round 4.

[billeau2]

This would be elferozs last hurrah, after the losses to Mosley and Mayorga. Let's say at a catchweight of 160 to be fair. Quite frankly Vargas has fought Ricardo Mayorga at 168 for his final fight, growing out the Jr and middleweight divisions.

Then we've got Cotto, the unbeaten welterweight steamtlrolling cats until he took his first L from a prime Antonio margarito. People say that bout ruined him (Cotto). All I know is that in 2008 Cotto was some kind of animal, did not know how to lose yet, confidence at a sky high.

Let's say he moves up 2 weight classes to 160? It's not like he never went that high , you see he eventually fought for the middle weight title against Sergio Martinez.

So a Studley prime Cotto moving up 2 weight classes to meet el Feroz at 160, and Vargas who could still make 160 (he's been as low as 154) for his final (for real) last fight before he hangs them up as his final goodbye. Who wins?

Imo Cotto had a bit of a mean streak going on. All business in the ring, but a burning rage underneath it. Then el Feroz with his blood and guts stuff, he'd rather die on his shield than go out on his back. The level of machismo would be at a high setting, the pride of both countries where we've seen numerous wars: Puerto Rico vs mexico.

Feroz has the size and strength advantage as well as the experience. Cotto, just a bull, a bulldog or a pitbull, knocking fools senseless. Does youth and confidence erase out pride and being intelligent and then being brave? Or does the chip on the shoulder mexican grind and wear down the smaller younger boricua? Both had some dog in them, k9 like.

At that time? Hard to see Cotto losing. Vargas was on the yellow brick road til he ran a cropper into Trinidad and De La Hoya... Levels to the game, Trinidad not only cut down Nando's ***** production considerably by mistaking his sack for a speedbag, but I think he took Nando's boxing soul that fight. Hard to anticipate effect of "catch" weight but Cotto imo was underrated at that time. Just a stone cold body punching machine, on the order of McCallum.

[QueensburyRules]

This would be elferozs last hurrah, after the losses to Mosley and Mayorga. Let's say at a catchweight of 160 to be fair. Quite frankly Vargas has fought Ricardo Mayorga at 168 for his final fight, growing out the Jr and middleweight divisions.

Then we've got Cotto, the unbeaten welterweight steamtlrolling cats until he took his first L from a prime Antonio margarito. People say that bout ruined him (Cotto). All I know is that in 2008 Cotto was some kind of animal, did not know how to lose yet, confidence at a sky high.

Let's say he moves up 2 weight classes to 160? It's not like he never went that high , you see he eventually fought for the middle weight title against Sergio Martinez.

So a Studley prime Cotto moving up 2 weight classes to meet el Feroz at 160, and Vargas who could still make 160 (he's been as low as 154) for his final (for real) last fight before he hangs them up as his final goodbye. Who wins?

Imo Cotto had a bit of a mean streak going on. All business in the ring, but a burning rage underneath it. Then el Feroz with his blood and guts stuff, he'd rather die on his shield than go out on his back. The level of machismo would be at a high setting, the pride of both countries where we've seen numerous wars: Puerto Rico vs mexico.

Feroz has the size and strength advantage as well as the experience. Cotto, just a bull, a bulldog or a pitbull, knocking fools senseless. Does youth and confidence erase out pride and being intelligent and then being brave? Or does the chip on the shoulder mexican grind and wear down the smaller younger boricua? Both had some dog in them, k9 like.

- - 160 is the middleweight limit, not a catch weight.

Their spheres of prime never matched, but Cotto the better boxer and career likely handles the mercurial Vargas who suffered from terrible weight drainage the whole of his career.