Mayweather path of least resistance and Canelo

[GhostofDempsey]

Well 2009 Olympic Style Testing was rare in boxing.

When Pacquiao agreed to the 14 day, I thought that would seal the deal, 14 days was fair imo, but when it came out that Floyd moved it to 0 day cutoff or no fight, I knew he was scared

The demand for drug testing was a duck in and of itself. He thought he was bigger than boxing to demand blood testing just after he signs up with a sketchy testing agency that would allow for a 2 - 3 week post-fight TUE exception after being caught with an illegal IV and su****iously low testosterone levels. He was protected by USADA and NSAC.

Manny agreed to testing in 2011 and Floyd moved the goal post almost a dozen times until 2015. Where has USADA been since Floyd's retirement?

[djtmal]

Meanwhile, Floyd himself admits he marinated the fight for five years to make it bigger.

This is the truth as well.

[travestyny]

Well you just confirmed that Mayweather was moving the goal post every time Pacquiao agreed to the new demand.

You just admitted Pacquiao agreed to the 14 day, then Mayweather changed the cutoff to zero did you not

No, bruh. No I did not. You are getting the order incorrect.

During the negotiation, Mayweather offered a 14 day cut off. Pacquiao wanted a 24 day cutt-off and refused to agree to the 14 day cut off.


When the negotiation broke down, Mayweather immediately said from now on, no cut-off dates for his fights.

Pacquiao, months later, said he would now accept 14 days.



It doesn't make sense for him to agree to 14 days after it was already off the table. He could have simply agreed to it the first time, since a 14 day cut-off is much, much more than generous. Generous to the point that, like Dan has been mentioning, it probably makes drug testing ineffective.

[travestyny]

Well 2009 Olympic Style Testing was rare in boxing.

When Pacquiao agreed to the 14 day, I thought that would seal the deal, 14 days was fair imo, but when it came out that Floyd moved it to 0 day cutoff or no fight, I knew he was scared

Here you just agreed that Mayweather made a fair offer of 14 days -- that Pacquiao rejected. That's most of my point

You keep insinuating that Mayweather moved the goal post after Pac agreed to the 14 day cut-0ff. That's not correct. After Pac rejected what you yourself have stated was a fair offer, then Mayweather said there will be no cut-off date. It was months after a 14 day cut-off was taken off the table that Pac agreed to a 14 day cut-off.

[djtmal]

He could have simply agreed to it the first time, since a 14 day cut-off is much, much more than generous.

Mayweather wasn't totally in control that was his problem. Pacquiao had some say so as well he was as big a draw as Mayweather. He wasn't Guerrero or Ortiz or one of those no name cherrypicks that had no choice but accept all of Mayweather demands

[djtmal]

Here you just agreed that Mayweather made a fair offer of 14 days -- that Pacquiao rejected. That's most of my point

You confirmed that Pacquiao agreed to 14 days cutoff did you not

[travestyny]

You confirmed that Pacquiao agreed to 14 days cutoff did you not

I thought we already established this.

Yes...after it had been pulled off the table for months.

[travestyny]

Mayweather wasn't totally in control that was his problem. Pacquiao had some say so as well he was as big a draw as Mayweather. He wasn't Guerrero or Ortiz or one of those no name cherrypicks that had no choice but accept all of Mayweather demands

Right...but he made a very reasonable offer that was rejected. We pretty much just agreed with that. If Pacquaio finds it agreeable like the rest of us have, we would have had the fight in their primes.

[IronDanHamza]

No he agreed to all the demands, not his problem that Mayweather kept moving the goalposts.

Guys that want to fight, they make it happen, not move the goalposts every time a demand is met

Yeah he agreed to it, after he said that it's not on the table.

So again that doesn't strengthen your argument it actually weakens it.

[IronDanHamza]

Right...but he made a very reasonable offer that was rejected. We pretty much just agreed with that. If Pacquaio finds it agreeable like the rest of us have, we would have had the fight in their primes.

Pacquaio agreed to the exact same testing protocol with no cut off date 6 years later I mean, what more needs to be said on that? It baffles me that this still get's argued.

He literally turned down the exact same protocol that he then later accepted.

Not only that, just 4 years later, he demanded that everyone that fights him do random drug testing with, you guessed it, no cut off date.

Bizarro world stuff.