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    #11
    Usyk's win over Joshua or Usyk's win over Gasaev?
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      #12
      Originally posted by kara View Post
      Usyk's win over Joshua or Usyk's win over Gasaev?
      - - Usyk pro record combined with Ama dwarfs that of Mr. Vander. AJ and Gasaev are just part of a brilliant career not to mention his military service...

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        #13
        Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

        - - Usyk pro record combined with Ama dwarfs that of Mr. Vander. AJ and Gasaev are just part of a brilliant career not to mention his military service...
        No way does it dwarf Vander.

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          #14
          Originally posted by The D3vil View Post
          Bowe- Holyfield III
          No doubt. But really, he shouldn't be in there.

          Fury will no doubt get in based on Wilder 2. The Klitschko win on its own wouldn't be enough.

          I've no doubt both Joshua and Wilder get in.

          For Joshua it's probably at the point when he became a 2 time unified champ against Ruiz?

          For Wilder I guess time served will have to do because there's no fight that gets him in. Unless it's enough to lose the vast majority of a trilogy.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Toffee View Post

            No doubt. But really, he shouldn't be in there.

            Fury will no doubt get in based on Wilder 2. The Klitschko win on its own wouldn't be enough.

            I've no doubt both Joshua and Wilder get in.

            For Joshua it's probably at the point when he became a 2 time unified champ against Ruiz?

            For Wilder I guess time served will have to do because there's no fight that gets him in. Unless it's enough to lose the vast majority of a trilogy.

            I get what you are writing there, but thats what I think is fun about this post. When exactly does "time Served" (good phrase) kick in? Ortiz 1?

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              #16
              Originally posted by DeeMoney View Post


              I get what you are writing there, but thats what I think is fun about this post. When exactly does "time Served" (good phrase) kick in? Ortiz 1?
              Probably Ortiz 1. Not due to Ortiz but due to being his 10th defence (1 draw).

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                #17
                Originally posted by Toffee View Post

                Probably Ortiz 1. Not due to Ortiz but due to being his 10th defence (1 draw).
                Was he an underdog with Stiverne in fight 1?

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by kara View Post

                  Was he an underdog with Stiverne in fight 1?
                  Wilder was a slight favorite, fans were about 50/50 on this. The general consensus was that Wilder had the power (duh) to win the fight, but that Stiverne had the ability to out box him; and that either fighter had a suspect/unknown chin. The crazy thing was Wilder just jabbed and moved and outboxed Stiverne for the decision.

                  I remember him in the post fight interview talking about how everyone said he couldn't box and that he was all just power but he showed them. I wonder what couldve been had he kept that mentality.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by DeeMoney View Post

                    Wilder was a slight favorite, fans were about 50/50 on this. The general consensus was that Wilder had the power (duh) to win the fight, but that Stiverne had the ability to out box him; and that either fighter had a suspect/unknown chin. The crazy thing was Wilder just jabbed and moved and outboxed Stiverne for the decision.

                    I remember him in the post fight interview talking about how everyone said he couldn't box and that he was all just power but he showed them. I wonder what couldve been had he kept that mentality.
                    Yeah, like Tommy Morrison after outboxing Foreman. Should've done that way more often in his career.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by DeeMoney View Post

                      Wilder was a slight favorite, fans were about 50/50 on this. The general consensus was that Wilder had the power (duh) to win the fight, but that Stiverne had the ability to out box him; and that either fighter had a suspect/unknown chin. The crazy thing was Wilder just jabbed and moved and outboxed Stiverne for the decision.

                      I remember him in the post fight interview talking about how everyone said he couldn't box and that he was all just power but he showed them. I wonder what couldve been had he kept that mentality.
                      I remember few people thought Wilder would be able to go the full twelve, but he did.

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