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    The Heavyweight Title Defenders

    As we struggle with the universal inaction in an otherwise excellent heavyweight division these days, let's see how those who made plenty of successful title defenses did it.

    Most title defenses in a single calendar year:

    John L. Sullivan 1884. -11
    Joe Louis 1941. -7
    Ezzard Charles 1951. -7
    Tommy Burns. 1908. -6
    Muhammad Ali 1966. -5
    Jack Johnson. 1909. -4
    Larry Holmes 1980. -4
    Mike Tyson 1987. -4
    James J. Jeffries. 1901. -3
    Lennox Lewis 2000. -3
    Wladimir Klitschko 2002, 08, 12. -3
    Vitali Klitschko 2009. -3
    Tyson Fury 2018. -3
    Jack Dempsey 1920, 23. -2
    Rocky Marciano. 1953, 54, 55. -2
    Floyd Patterson 1957, 1961. -2
    Joe Frazier 1968, 69, 70, 72. -2
    Evander Holyfield 1991. -2
    Deontay Wilder 2016, 17, 18, 19. -2
    Anthony Joshua 2016, 17. -2
    Last edited by Willow The Wisp; 07-04-2023, 05:56 PM.

    #2
    I can't speak with huge authority but I recall in the 80's nearly all heavyweight title fights were in the USA las vegas or atlantic city. This made the making of title fights relatively easy. We all knew where the fight would be and sold the tickets and us boxing fans in the UK stayed up all night to watch.
    It seems now that promoters have links to certain tv companies and the different tv stations don't help each other but seem to create loads of problems for lawyers to clean up.
    They build the biggest fights in order to get fighters and hangers on the most money and this can go on for years. Frustrating for boxing fans.
    ha ha john L with 11 title fights in one year!!! love it!!!

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      #3
      Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post
      As we struggle with the universal inaction in an otherwise excellent heavyweight division these days, let's see how those who made plenty of successful title defenses did it.

      Most title defenses in a single calendar year:

      John L. Sullivan 1884. -11
      Joe Louis 1941. -7
      Ezzard Charles 1951. -7
      Tommy Burns. 1908. -6
      Muhammad Ali 1966. -5
      Jack Johnson. 1909. -4
      Larry Holmes 1980. -4
      Mike Tyson 1987. -4
      James J. Jeffries. 1901. -3
      Lennox Lewis 2000. -3
      Wladimir Klitschko 2002, 08, 12. -3
      Vitali Klitschko 2009. -3
      Tyson Fury 2018. -3
      Jack Dempsey 1920, 23. -2
      Rocky Marciano. 1953, 54, 55. -2
      Floyd Patterson 1957, 1961. -2
      Joe Frazier 1968, 69, 70, 72. -2
      Evander Holyfield 1991. -2
      Deontay Wilder 2016, 17, 18, 19. -2
      Anthony Joshua 2016, 17. -2
      You lost me at "otherwise excellent heavyweight division"
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        #4
        Originally posted by The D3vil View Post

        You lost me at "otherwise excellent heavyweight division"
        Indeed that pushed my eyebrows up too. There are three fighters good enough to get interested in. His letter was an outlier in an otherwise excellent career of letter writing.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Slugfester View Post

          Indeed that pushed my eyebrows up too. There are three fighters good enough to get interested in. His letter was an outlier in an otherwise excellent career of letter writing.
          Lol. OK. You guys are on.

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            #6
            - - There is no reason not to defend at least 2x a year save for major injury.

            Haymon paid Gary Russet Jr to fight pushovers once a year for a few million, one of many examples of Haymon ruining boxing.

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              #7
              Originally posted by The D3vil View Post

              You lost me at "otherwise excellent heavyweight division"
              Lol....glad I got a reaction, anyway. Man, I get next to nothing in the non-stop boxing section that's worth a response.

              And thanks for the compliment on my written offerings here Slugfaster.
              Hopefully I don't generally come off as a poor source of information.

              So you don't think much of a heavyweight era with a minimum of 4 prime-of-life future hall-of-famers featured in the top 10, eh?

              So lets use my rankings.
              I'm a ranker from way, way back, under Lew Eskin.
              "Copious study will never fully cleanse the subjective nature of rankings, but you must always be prepared to defend what you write ", he would say.
              So here are My current ratings, and I'm prepared.

              Champion -
              Tyson Fury
              1. Oleksandr Usyk
              2. Deontay Wilder
              3. Anthony Joshua
              4. Andy Ruiz
              5. Zhilei Zhang
              6. Joe Joyce
              7. Luis Ortiz
              8. Daniel Dubois
              9. Dillian Whyte
              10.Martin Bakole
              11.Joseph Parker
              12.Filip Hrgovic
              13.Frank Sanchez
              14.Derek Chisora
              15.Jarred Anderson
              16.Murat Gassiev
              17.Arslanbek Makhmudov
              18.Efe Ajagba
              19.Otto Wallin
              20.Carlos Takam
              21.Tony Yoka
              22.Agit Kabayel
              23.Robert Helenius
              24.Jarrell Miller
              25.Ali Eren Demirezen
              26.Fabio Wardly
              27.Zhan Kossobutskiy
              28.Kubrat Pulev
              29.Charles Martin
              30.Lenier Pero
              31.Jermain Franklin
              32.Simon Kean
              33.Kevin Lerena
              34.Adam Kownacki
              35.Stephen Shaw
              36.Arslan Yallyev
              37.Lucas Browne
              38.Ivan Dychko
              39.Bakhodir Jalolov
              40.Demsey McKean
              41.David Adeleye
              42.Kem Ljungquist
              43.Alexis Barriere
              44.Justice Huni
              45.Mike Balogun
              46.Jonathan Guidry
              47.Jose Larduet
              48.Ryad Merhy
              49.Jonathan Rice
              50.Jerry Forrest​

              Now, use this resource below, and do this:

              Go back 40 years, to 1983.
              Find me a Ring top 10 list, 3 of them, each seperated by 5 years or more, within the 40 year block (ex. 1985, 1990, 2000), that display a better top 10 than today's.



              Game on.

              nathan sturley max baer Nash out Nash out like this.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post

                Lol....glad I got a reaction, anyway. Man, I get next to nothing in the non-stop boxing section that's worth a response.

                And thanks for the compliment on my written offerings here Slugfaster.
                Hopefully I don't generally come off as a poor source of information.

                So you don't think much of a heavyweight era with a minimum of 4 prime-of-life future hall-of-famers featured in the top 10, eh?

                So lets use my rankings.
                I'm a ranker from way, way back, under Lew Eskin.
                "Copious study will never fully cleanse the subjective nature of rankings, but you must always be prepared to defend what you write ", he would say.
                So here are My current ratings, and I'm prepared.

                Champion -
                Tyson Fury
                1. Oleksandr Usyk
                2. Deontay Wilder
                3. Anthony Joshua
                4. Andy Ruiz
                5. Zhilei Zhang
                6. Joe Joyce
                7. Luis Ortiz
                8. Daniel Dubois
                9. Dillian Whyte
                10.Martin Bakole
                11.Joseph Parker
                12.Filip Hrgovic
                13.Frank Sanchez
                14.Derek Chisora
                15.Jarred Anderson
                16.Murat Gassiev
                17.Arslanbek Makhmudov
                18.Efe Ajagba
                19.Otto Wallin
                20.Carlos Takam
                21.Tony Yoka
                22.Agit Kabayel
                23.Robert Helenius
                24.Jarrell Miller
                25.Ali Eren Demirezen
                26.Fabio Wardly
                27.Zhan Kossobutskiy
                28.Kubrat Pulev
                29.Charles Martin
                30.Lenier Pero
                31.Jermain Franklin
                32.Simon Kean
                33.Kevin Lerena
                34.Adam Kownacki
                35.Stephen Shaw
                36.Arslan Yallyev
                37.Lucas Browne
                38.Ivan Dychko
                39.Bakhodir Jalolov
                40.Demsey McKean
                41.David Adeleye
                42.Kem Ljungquist
                43.Alexis Barriere
                44.Justice Huni
                45.Mike Balogun
                46.Jonathan Guidry
                47.Jose Larduet
                48.Ryad Merhy
                49.Jonathan Rice
                50.Jerry Forrest​

                Now, use this resource below, and do this:

                Go back 40 years, to 1983.
                Find me a Ring top 10 list, 3 of them, each seperated by 5 years or more, within the 40 year block (ex. 1985, 1990, 2000), that display a better top 10 than today's.



                Game on.
                Fury's a lock for the HOF

                Usyk's a lock

                Wilder will probably get it, he's an American, who defended the belt 10x & was apart of the best trilogy in recent history

                Joshua needs one more win. I'm not convinced he's in.

                Everybody else is wack. Nobody else matters.
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post

                  Lol....glad I got a reaction, anyway. Man, I get next to nothing in the non-stop boxing section that's worth a response.

                  And thanks for the compliment on my written offerings here Slugfaster.
                  Hopefully I don't generally come off as a poor source of information.

                  So you don't think much of a heavyweight era with a minimum of 4 prime-of-life future hall-of-famers featured in the top 10, eh?

                  So lets use my rankings.
                  I'm a ranker from way, way back, under Lew Eskin.
                  "Copious study will never fully cleanse the subjective nature of rankings, but you must always be prepared to defend what you write ", he would say.
                  So here are My current ratings, and I'm prepared.

                  Champion -
                  Tyson Fury
                  1. Oleksandr Usyk
                  2. Deontay Wilder
                  3. Anthony Joshua
                  4. Andy Ruiz
                  5. Zhilei Zhang
                  6. Joe Joyce
                  7. Luis Ortiz
                  8. Daniel Dubois
                  9. Dillian Whyte
                  10.Martin Bakole
                  11.Joseph Parker
                  12.Filip Hrgovic
                  13.Frank Sanchez
                  14.Derek Chisora
                  15.Jarred Anderson
                  16.Murat Gassiev
                  17.Arslanbek Makhmudov
                  18.Efe Ajagba
                  19.Otto Wallin
                  20.Carlos Takam
                  21.Tony Yoka
                  22.Agit Kabayel
                  23.Robert Helenius
                  24.Jarrell Miller
                  25.Ali Eren Demirezen
                  26.Fabio Wardly
                  27.Zhan Kossobutskiy
                  28.Kubrat Pulev
                  29.Charles Martin
                  30.Lenier Pero
                  31.Jermain Franklin
                  32.Simon Kean
                  33.Kevin Lerena
                  34.Adam Kownacki
                  35.Stephen Shaw
                  36.Arslan Yallyev
                  37.Lucas Browne
                  38.Ivan Dychko
                  39.Bakhodir Jalolov
                  40.Demsey McKean
                  41.David Adeleye
                  42.Kem Ljungquist
                  43.Alexis Barriere
                  44.Justice Huni
                  45.Mike Balogun
                  46.Jonathan Guidry
                  47.Jose Larduet
                  48.Ryad Merhy
                  49.Jonathan Rice
                  50.Jerry Forrest​

                  Now, use this resource below, and do this:

                  Go back 40 years, to 1983.
                  Find me a Ring top 10 list, 3 of them, each seperated by 5 years or more, within the 40 year block (ex. 1985, 1990, 2000), that display a better top 10 than today's.



                  Game on.
                  I am only interested in those on your list who would whip Rocky Marciano and whip him good. Cut 'em out for me, will ya? Or would all of them?
                  Last edited by Slugfester; 07-05-2023, 11:25 PM.

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                    #10
                    - - AJ retires tomorrow he's a lock HOF in 5 yrs. If he gets run over by a truck, he's in the next year.

                    Best fighter since the Ks retired by far and brought huge interest and $$$ to the division that died out after the Ks emasculated all the Americans and Brits.

                    And it's no surprize that Usyk and Loma to a lesser degree have picked up the Ukrainian mantle.

                    Blubber and Deyonce can go pound sand together on their own pacific atoll as far as I rank them.

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