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    Which Draw was the biggest robbery?

    A few come to mind…Lewis/Holyfield, Hearns/Leonard II, Pacquiao/Marquez I.

    Who do you have?

    #2
    Whitaker - Chavez for me.

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      #3
      Pazienza-Haugen I

      The definitive 'house corner' decision. Haugen gave Paz a boxing lesson twice (I & II).

      Paz won the third fight by refusing to engage; it was a classic Whitaker like 'avoid actually fighting' performance.

      P.S. Teddy Atlas was so proud of himself with fight 3, bragging post fight how he taught Paz to beat Haugen. Yea, he did, he taught him how to steal rounds by avoiding engagement. Teddy Atlas's ego always gets under my skin.

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        #4
        Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
        Whitaker - Chavez for me.
        Absolutely! My choice as well.
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          #5
          Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post
          Pazienza-Haugen I

          The definitive 'house corner' decision. Haugen gave Paz a boxing lesson twice (I & II).

          Paz won the third fight by refusing to engage; it was a classic Whitaker like 'avoid actually fighting' performance.

          P.S. Teddy Atlas was so proud of himself with fight 3, bragging post fight how he taught Paz to beat Haugen. Yea, he did, he taught him how to steal rounds by avoiding engagement. Teddy Atlas's ego always gets under my skin.
          Whitaker “avoid actual fighting”? Wtf? Whitaker had tremendous defensive skills and great reflexes but in no way did he “avoid actual fighting”. Do you actually believe he did?

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            #6
            Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post
            Pazienza-Haugen I

            The definitive 'house corner' decision. Haugen gave Paz a boxing lesson twice (I & II).

            Paz won the third fight by refusing to engage; it was a classic Whitaker like 'avoid actually fighting' performance.

            P.S. Teddy Atlas was so proud of himself with fight 3, bragging post fight how he taught Paz to beat Haugen. Yea, he did, he taught him how to steal rounds by avoiding engagement. Teddy Atlas's ego always gets under my skin.
            While I agree on your takes on Haugen (who’s way underrated) and Paz (who’s way overrated), I have to note that none of their fights was a draw.
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              #7
              Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
              Whitaker - Chavez for me.
              Na! Whitaker gets credit for stopping the KO freight train called Chavez. That he did, the first to do it. That was a great effort.

              But then he never risked mounting an offense.

              Whitaker was content with thinking if he wins the 'anticipation game' (that Chavez couldn't KO him.) that he would be declared the winner.

              Not enough! He got all he deserved, a draw.

              If he wanted a win he needed to take it Chavez not just, not get KOed. But he wouldn't risk it.

              Fight ended the way it began, with Chavez moving forward and Whitaker neutralizing him.

              If that's all there is, that's a draw.

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                #8
                Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post
                A few come to mind…Lewis/Holyfield, Hearns/Leonard II, Pacquiao/Marquez I.

                Who do you have?
                At least Leonard has stepped up and stated, 'to his mind, he and Tommy were one and one.'

                So credit to SRL for making that statement. We seldom to never hear fighters be that honest.
                Last edited by Willie Pep 229; 07-04-2023, 01:51 PM.
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                  #9
                  Forgot about this one. Not only was the draw a controversy this decision to overturn it decades later was too.

                  Australian boxing icon Jeff Fenech has been awarded the World Boxing Council’s super-featherweight belt 31 years after being denied the title in a controversial draw against Azumah Nelson.

                  A panel of WBC judges reassessed the June 28, 1991, fight at the Mirage Hotel in Las Vegas, which lasted 12 rounds and resulted in Nelson keeping his belt.

                  That decision was widely criticized by boxing pundits and Fenech later said he was never the same fighter after it.

                  “This time it was a UD (unanimous decision) for ‘The Marrackville Mauler.’ That makes a grand total of four WBC belts for him,” the WBC said in a statement on the reassessment.

                  One of his country’s greatest boxers, Fenech held the IBF bantamweight title from 1985 to 1987, the WBC super-bantamweight title from 1987 to 1988 and the WBC featherweight title from 1988 to 1990.

                  “It would’ve meant more to me back when I really won the fight. But for them, the WBC, to do this is so special,” Fenech, 58, told News Corp. “Far out, it means so much to me.”

                  Prior to Nelson, Fenech had won 25 straight fights.

                  He and Ghanaian Nelson had a rematch in Melbourne a year later, with the Australian knocked out in the eighth round in front of a huge crowd at Princes Park.

                  The pair reunited for another bout in Melbourne in 2008 when they were both middle aged, which Fenech won by majority decision.
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                    #10
                    Fury vs Wilder, first fight.

                    Knockdowns aside, Fury dominated Deontay.
                    Last edited by Tatabanya; 07-04-2023, 03:10 PM.

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