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    The 10 Lightheavyweights of the complete Evolution

    So, lots of talk here recently about the 115 year old films showing the champions of 115 years ago as poor fighers, observed on film by knowledge-seeking experts in the making now posting at Boxing Scene as "Crude brawler(s) who clinched a lot and leaned back from punches".
    So, let's concede then that there exists no other context beyond the evidence we ourselves can process, by simply looking at the films, and like all sports the game has evolved. We try with little consensus to pinpoint the stylistic quantum leap moments and champions but this is often laid at the feet of Johnson, Leonard, Dempsey, Armstrong, Pep, Ali, Tyson, Klitschko, etc. The legends, one plucked from every 10 to 20 years moving forward. One poster claims that Ali and his era of contemporaries from the 1970s are now completely archaic and could not compete in the 21st. Century. Maybe. Maybe it was a moment, or perhaps subtile, incremental progress, like annual use of building blocks; and all the great trainers from Blackburn, Arcel, D'Amato, Benton, Durham, Futch, Dundee, to Clancey, Steward, Hunter and, well; most of the others, were just plain full of it; pining for their own youth and vigor one suposes.
    If the evolution theory holds water at all, certainly we're seeing the Best MOQ rules professionals right now, and during the last quarter century block. Boxing is booming in every region on earth, and since 2000 it has served up the best men of every size that each culture can push out, eager to sacrifice, learn and fight hard in a quest for riches.
    So......
    Let's have a look at the 175 pounders, a popular weight class; and I ask YOU to pull your top 10 togeter, of the MOST MODERN AND HIGHLY EVOLVED (BEST) Light Heavyweight collection the world has ever seen. Here's a primer pick list for anyone who accepts the challenge, and then we can review the end (or newest) destination of all the evolution:

    21 Century 01/01/200 - 01/01/2023

    Top Light Heavyweight (175 lbs.):

    Roy Jones Jr.
    Andre Ward
    Dariusz Michalczewski
    Dmitry Bivol
    Sergey Kovalev
    Joe Calzaghe
    Bernard Hopkins
    Saul Alvarez
    Fabrice Tiozzo
    Artur Beterbiev
    Antonio Tarver
    Chad Dawson
    Adonis Stevenson
    Tomasz Adamek
    Glen Johnson
    Badou Jack
    Paul Briggs
    Marcus Browne
    Jean Pascal
    Tavoris Cloud
    Julio César Gonzalez
    Joe Smith Jr.
    Zsolt Erdei
    Clinton Woods
    Oleksandr Gvozdyk
    Callum Smith
    Nathan Cleverly
    Eleider Alvarez​
    Last edited by Willow The Wisp; 11-07-2022, 08:49 PM.

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    Oh, what an intriguing thread! Jeepers Creepers, Let me start!
    The 10 greatest Lightheavyweights of all time, based on the Moneytheman inspired, Boxing Scene supported theory of boxing every 20 years evolution....

    1. Roy Jones Jr.
    2. Andre Ward
    3. Dariusz Michalczewski
    4. Dmitry Bivol
    5. Sergey Kovalev
    6. Joe Calzaghe
    7. Bernard Hopkins
    8. Saul Alvarez
    9. Fabrice Tiozzo
    10. Artur Beterbiev

    Sam Langford, Ezzard Charles, Georges Carpentier, Tommy Loughran, Jimmy Bivins, Gene Tunny, Archie Moore, Bob Foster, Billy Conn, John Henry Lewis, Victor Galindez, Harold Johnson, Kid Norfolk, Harry Greb, Matthew Saad Muhammad, Bob Fitzsimmons, Jack Dillon, Philadelphia Jack O'Brien, Jack Delaney, Battling Siki, Jimmy Slattery, Joey Maxim, Maxie Rosenbloom, Willie Pastrono, Even Michael Spinks......these guys are ALL old timey, antique styles, and although some boxing "Historians" may be butthurt; the world of Modern Training, styles and nutrition has PASSED THEM BY.
    Last edited by Willow The Wisp; 11-08-2022, 04:58 PM.

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      #3
      Calzaghe in the Top 10 because he beat Hopkins only?

      Chad Dawson beat him too and has many other wins at the weight.,

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        #4
        Canelo Alvarez ranked as a top Lt Heavy in the past 20 years? He has one win at 175, and thats against a fighter on the wrong side of 35 (Kovalev), though I get thats a consistent critique against alvarez.

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          #5
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
          Calzaghe in the Top 10 because he beat Hopkins only?

          Chad Dawson beat him too and has many other wins at the weight.,
          - - When Chad embarrassed Poppy, he was long past Home rated as he was when Calzaghe humiliated him. Back to back in America he topped a cherry by slicing and dicing Uncategorized Groups Roy.

          Joe fought in traditional LH weight class subjugated to the nascent SuperMiddleweight division.

          IBRO 2005 rankings didn't include jr divisions like supermiddleweight, but Roy #10 LH and Poppy Articles middleweight.
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            #6
            Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

            - - When Chad embarrassed Poppy, he was long past Home rated as he was when Calzaghe humiliated him. Back to back in America he topped a cherry by slicing and dicing Uncategorized Groups Roy.

            Joe fought in traditional LH weight class subjugated to the nascent SuperMiddleweight division.

            IBRO 2005 rankings didn't include jr divisions like supermiddleweight, but Roy #10 LH and Poppy Articles middleweight.
            Wrong.

            Hopkins was ranked Number 1 when Dawson beat him.
            Last edited by IronDanHamza; 11-09-2022, 01:35 PM.

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              #7
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

              Wrong.

              Hopkins was ranked Home when Dawson beat him.
              He actually closed out 2012 as The Ring's number one lightheavy behind champion Dawson that year.

              Queenie likes to make things up.
              Last edited by JAB5239; 11-09-2022, 01:33 PM.

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                #8
                Kind of a satirical thread, but I'm loving the support for Chad Dawson allot.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post
                  Kind of a satirical thread, but I'm loving the support for Chad Dawson allot.
                  Not really a support of Chad Dawson, was never a fan.

                  More so of a question as to how Calzaghe is ranked in the Top 10, when someone as average as Dawson was a lot more accomplished at the weight.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

                    He actually closed out 2012 as The Ring's number one lightheavy behind champion Dawson that year.

                    Queenie likes to make things up.
                    Yeah for some reason when you type # 1 on here now it changes it to a "Home" link.


                    That was the point I was making, that Hopkins was ranked # 1 when Dawson beat him.

                    And realistically he beat him twice because Hopkins twice because Hopkins quit the first time.
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