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    #11
    Originally posted by DeeMoney View Post

    Dont think its complicating it at all, its a fair question. I intentionally left the criteria ambiguous so everyone could interpret it their own way; for the most part I think you touched on each of the criteria I would bring up: General level of talent, and greatness at the top.
    One problem is: ATG type arguments are fairly easy to guage... Even when debatable. But the general level of talent is very hard to assess unless one carefully watches what fighters are capable of doing... and does so with the best and the least common denominator.

    Thanks for the understanding.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Marchegiano View Post

      The **** are you trying to say? Because Wlad carried fatman it's a great era?
      aww come on M! don't be a buzz killer!!! Wlad was the "feel good" story for the ages... A talented heavyweight who starts to get punched out... goes to the mystical mountain, a so named convenience store located near the then Kronk Gym... Blunts, flavored cigs, malt liquor... and Wlad as he makes his purchase sees the gym and meets his Yoda, emmauel Stewart. Stewart proceeds to try to teach the lumox how to move, parry, slip, juke and.... then decides to abandon all that and instead teaches the lumox to clinch. Wlad learns the clinch so well, that he can grab and piss on a man's leg on command... He must now avenge his defeats, seeks Sanders out, and then cries to big brother to stand in.... But its ok cause he finds a ruined brewster ready to fall down on command, and proceeds to hump his way to victory after victory of robotic mandatories who would have been the ring cleaners in any decent era.

      That my friend is a feel good story for the ages! Excuse me while I grab a tissue and the bon bons.
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        #13
        Originally posted by Nash out View Post
        I've watched since 1990, the '90s were really poor on the whole. Tyson knocking out bums didn't really do it for me. Bowe had a 1 year spell of looking awesome, then binned his belt to avoid Lewis and turned to ****, then got battered around the ring by Golota in both fights they had. Lewis was great, but he got better as he got older. Holyfield was great as well, obviously, but the rest were garbage. 1. Lewis, 2. Holyfield, 3. Bowe, 4. Douglas, 5. Tyson, and then nothing at all after that. People were hyped then to watch Tyson fight the likes of Peter Mcneeley ffs.

        The last time 5-10 years has been great. Much better than the overhyped '90s.
        If you could have felt the excitement in a room awaiting a Mike Tyson fight you would understand his appeal. He was simply a bad ass once that bell sounded and we were hoping for him to get it back. But once it is gone, it is gone....................Rockin'

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          #14
          Originally posted by Nash out View Post
          I've watched since 1990, the '90s were really poor on the whole. Tyson knocking out bums didn't really do it for me. Bowe had a 1 year spell of looking awesome, then binned his belt to avoid Lewis and turned to ****, then got battered around the ring by Golota in both fights they had. Lewis was great, but he got better as he got older. Holyfield was great as well, obviously, but the rest were garbage. 1. Lewis, 2. Holyfield, 3. Bowe, 4. Douglas, 5. Tyson, and then nothing at all after that. People were hyped then to watch Tyson fight the likes of Peter Mcneeley ffs.

          The last time 5-10 years has been great. Much better than the overhyped '90s.
          The 90's also had Mercer, Morrison, Foreman, Golota, Moorer, Ibaebuchi, Tua, and several others who made for some great fights. Even some of the B and C level fighters made for some great fights. Check out this brutal match between Mercer and Cooper. Not too many HW scraps like that today.


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            #15
            Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

            aww come on M! don't be a buzz killer!!! Wlad was the "feel good" story for the ages... A talented heavyweight who starts to get punched out... goes to the mystical mountain, a so named convenience store located near the then Kronk Gym... Blunts, flavored cigs, malt liquor... and Wlad as he makes his purchase sees the gym and meets his Yoda, emmauel Stewart. Stewart proceeds to try to teach the lumox how to move, parry, slip, juke and.... then decides to abandon all that and instead teaches the lumox to clinch. Wlad learns the clinch so well, that he can grab and piss on a man's leg on command... He must now avenge his defeats, seeks Sanders out, and then cries to big brother to stand in.... But its ok cause he finds a ruined brewster ready to fall down on command, and proceeds to hump his way to victory after victory of robotic mandatories who would have been the ring cleaners in any decent era.

            That my friend is a feel good story for the ages! Excuse me while I grab a tissue and the bon bons.
            He did reign for a long time doe
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              #16
              Originally posted by Anthony342 View Post
              What about the 1980s?
              The 80s were pretty good.

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                #17
                Marciano was the legend smasher. The Rock ground full legends into grist and still conducted himself like a gentleman, inside and outside the ring, always a gracious winner. He gets boxing's Medal of Honor for just a partial list of his attainment's.

                1 Threw single best right hand ever
                2 Prevailt with worst injury ever
                3 Was the best conditiont ever
                4 Only undefeated HW champ ever
                5 Ownt his own era, hands down

                No other quite ownt his era like the Rock. They all had their nemesis, except for him. Let me know when the first ****** who could have beaten Marciano shows up.



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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Marchegiano View Post

                  He did reign for a long time doe
                  That's his curse. Top talent, poor era for heavyweights.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Marchegiano View Post

                    The **** are you trying to say? Because Wlad carried fatman it's a great era?

                    A fat man knocked Joshua out and might do the same to Fury. The same fat man had his hands full without another one. His name is Chris Arreola you know a guy Vitali toyed with and stopped over 10 years ago. Tells you all you need o know about the heavyweights active today. .
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post


                      A fat man knocked Joshua out and might do the same to Fury. The same fat man had his hands full without another one. His name is Chris Arreola you know a guy Vitali toyed with and stopped over 10 years ago. Tells you all you need o know about the heavyweights active today. .
                      What makes you think I think this a good era? If they do less then era before them they are decidedly more basic. Them K2 boys were the full sized, in shape, prime aged, basic bitches of the basic ***** era.

                      Both brothers struggle during an era when the HW division featured talent that has more than jabs and crosses in their bag of tricks. Once HW became fat, old, and undersized with absolutely nothing special about any fighter let alone an impressive array of technical prowess from any fighter then the brothers do well right up until the era when a 6'9" man learned how to pivot and twist angles.

                      So impressive. Jeffries ain't done ****, all about Wlad sitting on ass waiting for the next no hoper to get a mando so that even though his career overlaps names he never had to fight any.

                      So impressive we pretend the WBO was worth a **** earlier than its actual acceptance in the big four.

                      So impressive no one can watch a video and see a damn thing they didn't see in amatuers.

                      So impressive they managed a paired resume of some folks think Vitali beat Lennox when Lennox just walked him down.

                      Such an impressive era there's not a single scalp you'd call all time great they have an official W over.

                      I surely have been ungrateful for that fine fat **** era, and, as we all know, a good percentage of the division being fat is no indication to their dedication to the craft.

                      Absolutely 0 check hooks thrown in a HW title fight since the mid 2000's, but, both the current and former lineal champions have punched themselves in the face, now that son, that's talent. Best to tell these young bucks to appreciate while they have time.




                      Piss off, it's a **** era and that was a dumbass thing to say.
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