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    #21
    Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post

    Well, Frazier had only one way to fight, up close. His out game is a near zero and he did not have ANY jab or Right hand with a darn. His reach was limited. Louis at least had a good jab and a mid to long range and a good right hand.

    Which match did Louis face someone like Frazier? He did not. But I project them based on how they would match up.

    Frazier could only fight one way and had one effective punch, the left hook. Louis had more variety in attack and was the harder hitter. And Louis had a good uppercut for infighting

    Both guys had their share of drawbacks. I favor Louis 65.35

    We must factor in what Frazier is not and where he is vulnerable too.


    They don't fight from range much; they leave themselves open a lot. A lot of times, they will just throw themselves into the body and not protect themselves. They use mostly counters when up close; the lateral movement is very basic; they don't seem to be able to punch from range while doing it smoothly; they have to stop then punch most of the time; and their feet are mostly tiptoeing.​ And a lot of times they wait for the person to hit them, standing right in front of their opponent

    these obsolete flaws and tech exist in Jersey even who was the most skilled in the HW class it shows in this match too, that Jersey/louis isn't close to as advanced as that no name frazier fought or himself in the areas I named and that no name didn't have the same obsolete tech and flaws as this novice like the era

    Do these flaws and tech exist in the Frazier match with either fighter?​ or can you not see good so you can't see these obsolete tech/flaws​

    nothing here looks like it would land on anybody as advanced as frazier so you're not sane at all or never watched any full fights like this cause this looks trash compared you've exposed yourself.
     
    Last edited by Ascended; 03-30-2024, 11:14 AM.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post

      Well, Frazier had only one way to fight, up close. His out game is a near zero and he did not have ANY jab or Right hand with a darn. His reach was limited. Louis at least had a good jab and a mid to long range and a good right hand.

      Which match did Louis face someone like Frazier? He did not. But I project them based on how they would matchup.

      Frazier could only fight one way and had one effective punch, the left hook. Louis had more variety in attack and was the harder hitter. And Louis had a good uppercut for in fighting

      Both guys had their share of drawbacks. I favor Louis 65.35

      We must factor in what Frazier is not and where he is vulnerable too.


      Anybody as advanced as this guy not even 5th match frazier fought who existed in the louis era? The answer is no so why did you a idiot say louis would win,

      frazier even at this stage was way more advanced than the whole louis elouist
      hese guys were way more advanced in angles/fluidity/timing/defense/better tech/fought smarter Louis has no chance at all based on this match or any other match frazier had

      And why did you lie saying joe had better variety neither him or Jersey used as many angles as these guys

      and joe didnt hit harder either his tech was horrible compared
       
      Last edited by Ascended; 03-30-2024, 10:54 AM.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Ascended View Post

        Anybody as advanced as this guy not even 5th match frazier fought who existed in the louis era? The answer is no so why did you a idiot say louis would have a chance,frazier even at this stage was way more advanced than the whole louis era​

        These guys were way more advanced in angles/fluidity/timing/defense/better tech/fought smarter Louis has no chance at all based on this match or any other match frazier had
        Is there any way you white trash hillbillies can stop with the name calling. This is getting old.
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          #24
          Originally posted by mrbig1 View Post

          Is there any way you white trash hillbillies can stop with the name calling. This is getting old.
          Seriously?? That's his go to if you don't agree with his nonsense......crazy idiot!!
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            #25
            Frazier had to much pressing fir Louis liking ….he’d grind him down or get knocked out by the better clean Louis skill set …but…

            Frazier should win just bc of if the pressure.
            Last edited by juggernaut666; 03-31-2024, 04:53 PM.

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              #26
              Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
              Frazier had to much pressing fir Louis liking ….he’d grind him down or get knocked out by the better clean Louis skill set …but…

              Frazier should win just bc of if the pressure.
              Anybody as advanced as this guy not even 5th match frazier fought who existed in the louis era? The answer is no so why did you a idiot say louis would win,

              frazier even at this stage was way more advanced than the whole louis elouist
              hese guys were way more advanced in angles/fluidity/timing/defense/better tech/fought smarter Louis has no chance at all based on this match or any other match frazier had

              And why did you lie saying joe had better skillset how? neither him or Jersey used as many angles as these guys
               

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                #27
                Originally posted by Ascended View Post

                Anybody as advanced as this guy not even 5th match frazier fought who existed in the louis era? The answer is no so why did you a idiot say louis would win,

                frazier even at this stage was way more advanced than the whole louis elouist
                hese guys were way more advanced in angles/fluidity/timing/defense/better tech/fought smarter Louis has no chance at all based on this match or any other match frazier had

                And why did you lie saying joe had better skillset how? neither him or Jersey used as many angles as these guys
                Drink a glass of wine and take a nap , your blood pressure and logic is on the line if you got an actual question towards me let me know bc I haven’t a clue what you just posted . Lol
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                  #28
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                  Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
                  Frazier had to much pressing fir Louis liking ….he’d grind him down or get knocked out by the better clean Louis skill set …but…

                  Frazier should win just bc of if the pressure.
                  They don't fight from range much; they leave themselves open a lot. A lot of times, they will just throw themselves into the body and not protect themselves. They use mostly counters when up close; the lateral movement is very basic; they don't seem to be able to punch from range while doing it smoothly; they have to stop then punch most of the time; and their feet are mostly tiptoeing.​ And a lot of times they wait for the person to hit them, standing right in front of their opponent

                  these obsolete flaws and tech exist in Jersey even who was the most skilled in the HW class it shows in this match too, that Jersey/louis isn't close to as advanced as that no name frazier fought or himself in the areas I named and that no name didn't have the same obsolete tech and flaws as this novice like the era

                  Do these flaws and tech exist in the Frazier match with either fighter?​ or can you not see good so you can't see these obsolete tech/flaws​

                  nothing here looks like it would land on frazier

                  So how would Frazier get koed?
                   
                  Last edited by Ascended; 03-31-2024, 05:14 PM.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post

                    Drink a glass of wine and take a nap , your blood pressure and logic is on the line if you got an actual question towards me let me know bc I haven’t a clue what you just posted . Lol
                    That's right troll like you're kind always does cause you were exposed now you're acting as if you can't read or very slow cult member
                    Last edited by Ascended; 03-31-2024, 05:21 PM.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

                      Seriously?? That's his go-to if you don't agree with his nonsense......crazy idiot!!
                      video can't be deleted/altered which means it can't be disagreed with you or no one else from you're cult has any video to go over evidence I proved and continue to prove of the 70s-90s way more advanced than the novice-like era louis fought in and you never will have proof

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