Joe Frazier vs Joe Louis

[JAB5239]

video can't be deleted/altered which means it can't be disagreed with you or no one else from you're cult has any video to go over evidence I proved and continue to prove of the 70s-90s way more advanced than the novice-like era louis fought in and you never will have proof

The proof is in the videos. Not a single heavyweight in history looks as technically proficient as Joe Louis. The historians agree. Trainers agree. Other fighters. You seem to be the only one looking through an LSD induced haze. True story, you can ask anyone. Queenie and I seldom agree on anything, but I'd bet anything he agrees with this.

[JAB5239]

it's called lying to give respect to a legend

They don't fight from range much; they leave themselves open a lot. A lot of times, they will just throw themselves into the body and not protect themselves. They use mostly counters when up close; the lateral movement is very basic; they don't seem to be able to punch from range while doing it smoothly; they have to stop then punch most of the time; and their feet are mostly tiptoeing. And a lot of times they wait for the person to hit them, standing right in front of their opponent

these obsolete flaws and tech exist in Jersey even who was the most skilled in the HW class it shows in this match too, that Jersey/louis isn't close to as advanced as that no name frazier fought or himself in the areas I named and that no name didn't have the same obsolete tech and flaws as this novice like the era

No mid-carder fought with these many flaws and obsolete tech in the 70s-90s so how exactly was louis the most technical this looks trash compared to Jersey

I'll take you're vision is horrible which is why you don't see any of the obsolete tech and flaws I easily see here and this whole era, which means I don't care about your horrible vision

Sure. Everyone is lying except you.

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Sure. Everyone is lying except you.

Good job not answering all the obsolete tech and flaws if you see them in this match question I asked i don't have any reason to lie, crazy person I can see good you can't all those obsolete flaws and tech didn't exist in the average 70s-90s which means no joe wasn't the most tech since he wasn't as advanced as the average no name in 70s-90s that means he wouldn't even make amateur fighting as he did in those era's they would destroy him fast

All you ever do is quote you never tell me what you with you're own eyes sees which means you don't understand boxing or you vision is horrible as I said

[JAB5239]

Good job not answering all the obsolete tech and flaws if you see them in this match question I asked i don't have any reason to lie, crazy person I can see good you can't all those obsolete flaws and tech didn't exist in the average 70s-90s which means no joe wasn't the most tech since he wasn't as advanced as the average no name in 70s-90s that means he wouldn't even make amateur fighting as he did in those era's they would destroy him fast

All you ever do is quote you never tell me what you with you're own eyes sees which means you don't understand boxing or you vision is horrible as I said

No, that's where you're wrong yet again. Myself and others have pointed out plenty of things, quoted trainers and historians yet you remain blinded by your own bias. I have nothing against the "70's-90's" eras, but that you think you have broken some code and are on to something absolutely no one else sees is comical at best and lunacy at worst. You keep going on with your insults and spamming the same nonsense over and over. It's only a matter of time before this account is banned just like your last one.

[JAB5239]

I'm going to ask you again and I want an answer do you see these things or not

They don't fight from range much; they leave themselves open a lot. A lot of times, they will just throw themselves into the body and not protect themselves. They use mostly counters when up close; the lateral movement is very basic; they don't seem to be able to punch from range while doing it smoothly; they have to stop then punch most of the time; and their feet are mostly tiptoeing. And a lot of times they wait for the person to hit them, standing right in front of their opponent

And quotes don't matter to me so I don't care what you a crazy person or anybody else part of you're cult uses, I care about what's on video and that's all now answer my question and they can't ban my comments on other sites or delete comments before I existed here or on other sites others who said the same as me years ago

Unlike you I don't look thru a kaleidoscope when watching boxing. All the things you say you see can be applied to fighters from ANY era. Some of the things you think you see are because of film speed and Camara distance. But the fact remains Joe Louis was the most technically sound puncher ever.

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Unlike you I don't look thru a kaleidoscope when watching boxing. All the things you say you see can be applied to fighters from ANY era. Some of the things you think you see are because of film speed and Camara distance. But the fact remains Joe Louis was the most technically sound puncher ever.

They don't fight from range much; they leave themselves open a lot. A lot of times, they will just throw themselves into the body and not protect themselves. They use mostly counters when up close; the lateral movement is very basic; they don't seem to be able to punch from range while doing it smoothly; they have to stop then punch most of the time; and their feet are mostly tiptoeing. And a lot of times they wait for the person to hit them, standing right in front of their opponent

do you see these things or not and joe isn't the only 1 fighting so stop acting as if he is fighting air i want an answer from looking at both

[JAB5239]

They don't fight from range much; they leave themselves open a lot. A lot of times, they will just throw themselves into the body and not protect themselves. They use mostly counters when up close; the lateral movement is very basic; they don't seem to be able to punch from range while doing it smoothly; they have to stop then punch most of the time; and their feet are mostly tiptoeing. And a lot of times they wait for the person to hit them, standing right in front of their opponent

do you see these things or not and joe isn't the only 1 fighting so stop acting as if he is fighting air i want an answer from looking at both

You say the same things over and over. It isn't making it anymore true though. Should I go on a tangent about how fighter today Don feint, parry or hook off the jab anymore? There are examples of flaws in every era. The thing is, that doesn't define the whole era. For some oddball reason you think it does. The fact you can't see the Supreme skillset of Louis proves what a completely unknowledgable poster you truly are.

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You say the same things over and over. It isn't making it anymore true though. Should I go on a tangent about how fighter today Don feint, parry or hook off the jab anymore? There are examples of flaws in every era. The thing is, that doesn't define the whole era. For some oddball reason you think it does. The fact you can't see the Supreme skillset of Louis proves what a completely unknowledgable poster you truly are.

No, it's not the exact same obsolete flaws and tech of the 30s-40s in every era those flaws and tech didn't exist in the 70s-90s, this is very important to me which is why I named all those flaws and tech

Why won't you talk on Jersey or everyone else Joe fought they look trash to me compared

that's why I listed them and you for some odd reason keeps speaking on Louis only as if he is fighting air when I told you exactly to look at both fighters.this is why you're a cult member lying over and over and purposely acting blind or you are actually

And I acknowledge Louis being a great For his era but he looks trash when compared to the average 70s-90s I proved how novice like he looks multiple times

You lie saying it's me who has the problem no it's you and you're cult I can see great you guys can't

[JAB5239]

No, it's not the exact same obsolete flaws and tech of the 30s-40s in every era those flaws and tech didn't exist in the 70s-90s, this is very important to me which is why I named all those flaws and tech

Why won't you talk on Jersey or everyone else Joe fought they look trash to me compared

that's why I listed them and you for some odd reason keeps speaking on Louis only as if he is fighting air when I told you exactly to look at both fighters.this is why you're a cult member lying over and over and purposely acting blind or you are actually

And I acknowledge Louis being a great For his era but he looks trash when compared to the average 70s-90s I proved how novice like he looks multiple times

You lie saying it's me who has the problem no it's you and you're cult I can see great you guys can't

Honestly, you're to ****** to get it. Yes, we are one big cult...everyone that sees what you cannot. It's a conspiracy to keep you down.

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Honestly, you're to ****** to get it. Yes, we are one big cult...everyone that sees what you cannot. It's a conspiracy to keep you down.

Not a conspiracy to keep me down a cult full of pretending to be blind or actually of multiple people lying saying they see something on video that doesn't exist cause I would see it,

I didn't makeup what on video
You refuse to answer direct questions cause you're exposed and it hurts

I gave you exact detail on video no one who has bad vision or is being bias can have that much detail if it's a lie and doesn't exist on video