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    #31
    Originally posted by masta View Post
    The list can certainly help in deciding who. It's not like they put bums on the list. In the end, my opinions on Whitaker and Mayweather are generally what others think, as well.

    And the reason why Calzaghe's not #1 is because he didn't do anything special besides beating three great fighters that were past it. I'll give him credit for the Kessler and Lacy wins but besides that he's done nothing.
    What about Byron Mitchell win? Mitchell was highly regarded and dropped him before Calz rallied back in an amazing way and stopped him in 2.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Benncollinsaad View Post
      What about Byron Mitchell win? Mitchell was highly regarded and dropped him before Calz rallied back in an amazing way and stopped him in 2.
      Highly regarded? I don't know about you but he's not a great fighter. He struggled against mediocre opponents.

      He also came off a loss when he fought Calzaghe. He hurt and dropped Calzaghe before the referee stopped the fight after Mitchell was dropped. Too soon, in my opinion.

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        #33
        Originally posted by masta View Post
        Highly regarded? I don't know about you but he's not a great fighter. He struggled against mediocre opponents.

        He also came off a loss when he fought Calzaghe. He hurt and dropped Calzaghe before the referee stopped the fight after Mitchell was dropped. Too soon, in my opinion.
        He came off a controversial decision loss to king of frauds Sven Ottke. I didn't say he was a great fighter, but he was def one of the best in the division back then. So the criticism that Calzaghe didn't fight anybody good at 168 before Lacy or Kessler is pure bs.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Benncollinsaad View Post
          He came off a controversial decision loss to king of frauds Sven Ottke. I didn't say he was a great fighter, but he was def one of the best in the division back then. So the criticism that Calzaghe didn't fight anybody good at 168 before Lacy or Kessler is pure bs.
          I'm talking about fighters that were considered great on a world level. Lacy and Kessler were the prime fighters that Calzaghe deserves credit for. Other than that, nothing.

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            #35
            Originally posted by masta View Post
            I'm talking about fighters that were considered great on a world level. Lacy and Kessler were the prime fighters that Calzaghe deserves credit for. Other than that, nothing.
            I give him credit for Hopkins, not Jones. But Hopkins definitely. That guy was a hard nut to crack even at 43. And a very awkward fighter. But nobody is awkward enough for Joe C.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Benncollinsaad View Post
              I give him credit for Hopkins, not Jones. But Hopkins definitely. That guy was a hard nut to crack even at 43. And a very awkward fighter. But nobody is awkward enough for Joe C.
              I had him winning against Hopkins, in one of the most boring fighters I've ever seen. But I still had him winning.

              Prime against prime, I have him losing against both Jones and Hopkins. Maybe he could pull an upset against Hopkins but no way against Jones.

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                #37
                Originally posted by masta View Post
                I had him winning against Hopkins, in one of the most boring fighters I've ever seen. But I still had him winning.

                Prime against prime, I have him losing against both Jones and Hopkins. Maybe he could pull an upset against Hopkins but no way against Jones.
                Don't be so sure. Jones could be hurt and outboxed. He only couldn't be beaten to the punch in his prime. Not easily anyway.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Benncollinsaad View Post
                  Don't be so sure. Jones could be hurt and outboxed. He only couldn't be beaten to the punch in his prime. Not easily anyway.
                  I've never seen a prime Jones get hurt. The only time I've seen him outboxed was against Griffin in their first fight until he came back and was winning until getting disqualified.

                  I can see a 168 pound Jones knocking out Calzaghe. I guess we'll just differ on that.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by masta View Post
                    I've never seen a prime Jones get hurt. The only time I've seen him outboxed was against Griffin in their first fight until he came back and was winning until getting disqualified.

                    I can see a 168 pound Jones knocking out Calzaghe. I guess we'll just differ on that.
                    Prime Jones didn't fight ALL the best guys out there. It's a fact. And 90's Calzaghe was a knockout machine, believe it or not.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Benncollinsaad View Post
                      Prime Jones didn't fight ALL the best guys out there. It's a fact. And 90's Calzaghe was a knockout machine, believe it or not.
                      Jones beat Hopkins and Toney in the 90s and I give him a lot of credit for that. He fought a few other good names but I agree that there were some guys who weren't considered good opponents. I still rank him as one of the two best P4P fighters of the 90s, though.

                      And most of Calzaghe's knockout wins in the 90s were against bums.

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