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[slicksouthpaw16]

I would give spinks a better chance at beating Jones than Qawi. I haven't seen a lot of Qawi, but I think he had trouble with speed and angles, both of which Roy would give him plenty of. Like you said though, Jones hasb never fought a fighter who would bring so much pressure. How do you see the fight going, Pea?

I personally would give Qawi a better shot at beating Jones than Spinks but i would favor both over him. He was one of those consistant pressure fighters that stuck to their game and didn't back up even when hit. He also had the abilty slip punches and had that bob and weave defense, kind of similar to Joe Frazier. The only fighter that was as consistant in his pressure that Jones has faced was Glen Johnson, and we all know what happened there. Too bad Jones was past his prime when the fight happened so we never had the chance to see how they would match up. Where he would run into more problem with Qawi is the fact that he is a far harder puncher than Johnson, a better inside fighter and has counter punching ability. I see Qawi stopping Jones late.

Youtube didn't have any light heavyweight fights of Qawi so you should check out the video trading block for some of his fights.

[C.Y.]

I have seen most of them. Some extensively. Why, do you not think you can anylize a fighter and his opponents thru historians and newspaper accounts from the day?

naw i dont think you would be able to do that but most people that make these kind of threads dont really watch these older generation fighter's fights. they just go off hear say or go to boxrec or something or hear bert sugar say something and go on and agree with it.. im glad to hear that you have extensively watched these fighters and came up with your opinion instead of going off of other sources

[StarshipTrooper]

Has anybody else noticed that a sizeable percentage of the younger crowd has a rabid contempt for boxing historians? I'm guessing the assumption is that once people get over 30 they're smitten with Alzheimer's and don't know ****-all anymore.

Poet

[JAB5239]

Has anybody else noticed that a sizeable percentage of the younger crowd has a rabid contempt for boxing historians? I'm guessing the assumption is that once people get over 30 they're smitten with Alzheimer's and don't know ****-all anymore.

Poet

Yeah, I've noticed that too. Their theory seems to be if they haven't seen them they can't be as good as the guys they have seen.
I don't try to say some of these fighters are better than guys today, just had better careers at that particular weight. Its impossible to compare era's and say one guy is better because he fought in such and such era. Fighters can't be blamed for the era they fought in.

[JAB5239]

I personally would give Qawi a better shot at beating Jones than Spinks but i would favor both over him. He was one of those consistant pressure fighters that stuck to their game and didn't back up even when hit. He also had the abilty slip punches and had that bob and weave defense, kind of similar to Joe Frazier. The only fighter that was as consistant in his pressure that Jones has faced was Glen Johnson, and we all know what happened there. Too bad Jones was past his prime when the fight happened so we never had the chance to see how they would match up. Where he would run into more problem with Qawi is the fact that he is a far harder puncher than Johnson, a better inside fighter and has counter punching ability. I see Qawi stopping Jones late.

Youtube didn't have any light heavyweight fights of Qawi so you should check out the video trading block for some of his fights.

You make a strong case my friend!

[them_apples]

Yeah, I've noticed that too. Their theory seems to be if they haven't seen them they can't be as good as the guys they have seen.
I don't try to say some of these fighters are better than guys today, just had better careers at that particular weight. Its impossible to compare era's and say one guy is better because he fought in such and such era. Fighters can't be blamed for the era they fought in.

i'm one of those young people that has a rabbid dislike for boxing historians.

Why? Because they are on cloud 9 half of the time. they will rank someone like Jack Johnson over Lennox Lewis. That is just UTTER ******ity. Boxing wasn't even a developed sport back then yet they rank those fighters so high because their grand-pa used to tell them stories about them.

I watch old footage, It's fun to watch the rivalries back in the day, but no fool is going to tell me some slow moving, one punch donkey is going to KO a newer ATG who has mastered the art of boxing, has blinding handspeed and power.

George Foreman vs Joe Louis, another complete mismatch..however chances are all boxing historians will pick Louis.

a boxing historian is just that, someone who has watched a lot of fights - It doesn't mean they know who would win in a matchup.

[Jim Jeffries]

i'm one of those young people that has a rabbit dislike for boxing historians.

Why? Because they are on cloud 9 half of the time. they will rank someone like Jack Johnson over Lennox Lewis. That is just UTTER ******ity. Boxing wasn't even a developed sport back then yet they rank those fighters so high because their grand-pa used to tell them stories about them.

I watch old footage, It's fun to watch the rivalries back in the day, but no fool is going to tell me some slow moving, one punch donkey is going to KO a newer ATG who has mastered the art of boxing, has blinding handspeed and power.

George Foreman vs Joe Louis, another complete mismatch..however chances are all boxing historians will pick Louis.

a boxing historian is just that, someone who has watched a lot of fights - It doesn't mean they know who would win in a matchup.

It's even more annoying when guys like you say that Marciano wouldn't have lasted 30 seconds with Mike Tyson.

[oldgringo]

Ezzard Charles
Archie Moore
Gene Tunney
Michael Spinks
Bob Foster
Roy Jones
Billy Conn
Harry Greb
Maxie Rosenbloom
Harold Johnson

[TheGreatA]

It's even more annoying when guys like you say that Marciano wouldn't have lasted 30 seconds with Mike Tyson.

them_apples has made more than a few ridiculous statements:

pound for pound foreman punches way harder

Tye is 6'8 and a lot bigger, so I'd probably give it to Tye..although I can't see a 90's foreman losing to him, esp since Tye isn't really that quick ether.

I don't know if this was supposed to be a joke or not.

Bernard Hopkins vs. Pernell Whitaker

probably hopkins by a close UD

Close?

I voted Duran, but I definitely wouldn't take Cottos chance away ether. If he beats Margarito (tough slow fighter, much like Duran) then I may change my mind.

I should point out that

Ali and Patterson aren't "old timers"

and Robinson is the ONLY older fighter with any amount of speed, hence why he dominated.

show me someone quick from the 40's and I'll congratulate you.

Louis, charles, moore, Baer..all those guys were slow as mud.

[Jim Jeffries]

them_apples has made more than a few ridiculous statements:



I don't know if this was supposed to be a joke or not.



Close?

A couple of those must have been jokes. Pretty funny that a win over Margarito would somehow mean that Cotto could beat Duran. What did he call Duran again? A slow what?