In his prime Mike Tyson could have knocked out Joe Frazier

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Tyson could catch Frazier early because Frazier is a naturally slow starter whereas Tyson is a very fast fighter, but if Frazier can weather the early storm, he could beat Tyson.

[them_apples]

It's not like Tyson's skills diminished in late rounds, I can't see him losing to Frazier even if it went the distance. Tyson never tired that badly.

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I think Frazier would have a much better chance if the fight got into the late rounds especially if it's a 15 round fight and while not tiring badly, Tyson does slow down as the fight wears on. But this is of course assuming Frazier gets past the early rounds.

[makaveli_uk]

I think Frazier would have a much better chance if the fight got into the late rounds especially if it's a 15 round fight and while not tiring badly, Tyson does slow down as the fight wears on. But this is of course assuming Frazier gets past the early rounds.

Which he wouldn't.

[StarshipTrooper]

I dont understand why a lot of people compare mike to joe, they are 2 totally different fighters. i dont hate on frazier, in fact he's one of my favourite fighters but i dont see him getting past mike

frazier's only best weapon was the left hook, no jab, good right, but nothing flashy or special. Amazing conditioning, TOPS

Mike was a great puncher, much better hitter than joe. he showed his power against bigger men.
Mike is not given credit for his jab, when in fact he used to set up a lot of stuff with his jab, and outjabbed a 6'5 Tony Tucker who was a great boxer with a lot more reach

tyson could go to the body just as good as frazier did, and while mike's stamina might not have been equal to joes', he didnt tire early and was always on the attack

also while some may point out that their defense was similar, i disagree completely. Mike used to bob and weave side to side, while joe was all over the place, and moving his head forward, in other words open to uppercuts

aside from foreman joe havent been in there with harder punchers. Oscar Bonavena was a pretty good and awkward puncher, but no where close to what foreman or tyson were. and oscar dropped frazier twice in their first fight. Bob foster was a great left hooker, but while he may have been taller and longer, he was a smaller man, and the fight ended after 2 rounds.

i see tysona catching joe at any point with an uppecut or any other hard punch, and i see joe getting in trouble. And tyson was a great finisher.

the only thing that might make a difference in this fight is Joe's will and determination

Agree or Disagree?

In his prime Joe Frazier could have knocked out Tyson.

Ps. They WERE two totally different fighters: Frazier was discplined in the ring and Tyson was not. Frazier was consistent in his body attack while Tyson only went to the body in spurts. Frazier had great endurance and could go 15 hard rounds without breathing heavy while Tyson gassed out after 6. I guess they really WERE two different fighters.

Poet

[TheGreatA]

Some posts of mine regarding this match-up:
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Only boxer that Tyson fought who was comparable to Frazier (atleast in his use of bobbing and weaving) was a very fat Buster Mathis Jr who used bobbing and weaving to avoid Tyson's punches until he was caught with an uppercut (which in most people's opinions would be the telling punch in this fight).


Tyson brawling with the fast but fat Tony Tubbs.


Frazier tends to be a little underrated on these forums as people believe his only punch was the left hook.
This is not really true as shown in this fight against Quarry, Frazier sets up fast left hooks with the jab and ends the fight with a right hand that opens up a bad cut.


Frazier using more movement here in his prime years.

[ROSS CALIFORNIA]

Tyson faced two close to prime fighters that were on Frazier's level, Holyfield and Lewis. He was stopped in his peak prime by a journeyman, Buster Douglas, that couldn't have carried Frazier's jockstrap. Frazier wouldn't have been afraid of Mike and Douglas and Holyfield proved that Mike wasn't worth a damn against anyone that stood up to him. Frazier by late TKO or UD.

Your at your peak when you've lost interest in boxing and haven't properly trained for a fight? Just goes to show what you really know about Tyson or boxing in general. Tyson would have KO'd your idol Jeffries in the first as well, moron. I swear, you and Tunney are the ****iest posters around, and I think that video you two made was sick!!!

[ROSS CALIFORNIA]

In his prime Joe Frazier could have knocked out Tyson.

Ps. They WERE two totally different fighters: Frazier was discplined in the ring and Tyson was not. Frazier was consistent in his body attack while Tyson only went to the body in spurts. Frazier had great endurance and could go 15 hard rounds without breathing heavy while Tyson gassed out after 6. I guess they really WERE two different fighters.

Poet

That's about as far from the truth as it gets. There's no doubt your a Tyson hater, I've seen many delusional anti Tyson posts from you here. Funny thing is you could describe Foreman the same way you described Tyson, and we all know what Foreman did to Frazier. Think next time before try to make a point, moron!

[StarshipTrooper]

That's about as far from the truth as it gets. There's no doubt your a Tyson hater, I've seen many delusional anti Tyson posts from you here. Funny thing is you could describe Foreman the same way you described Tyson, and we all know what Foreman did to Frazier. Think next time before try to make a point, moron!

Dear RossCA aka Tyson nut-sucker. Foreman did what he did to Frazier because of much longer reach; which Frazier couldn't get inside of without getting his head taken off. That does NOT apply to Tyson who's reach was SHORTER than Frazier's. Duh. Try actually KNOWING something about fighters and boxing before you open your cum dumpster and prove your lack of brain cells to all.

ps. You wouldn't know truth if it bit your ear off, or if it was busted for coke posession in Phoenix

Poet

[Thunder Lips]

Something that is grossly over looked is the fact that Frazier may have been out of shape and lacking motivation in the first Foreman fight. This is a guy who has fought around and under 200 lbs in most of his prime years and fought the best fight of his career at just 205. After the biggest win of his career, he took much more time than usual off while his weight suddenly ballooned up to 215 and over. Foreman may very well have always had the style and tools to bother Fraizer but it is food for thought. Others have cut Lewis slack for his weight against Rahman and Vitali, why not Fraizer?

Anyway, as I said before I still don't think it would be much of a stretch to compare this to Frazier/Quarry I.



Before fading and getting injured, Quarry's pressure and quick combinations gave Frazier trouble early. Either Tyson finishes what Quarry couldn't in the early rounds or he fades and gets stopped in the later rounds where he would be outworked considerably.