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    #31
    Poet, please. I like you, but you don't have to pick fights with people you don't like in many threads. It ruins it.

    Brassangel, you could be right about people not really caring about the guy that got bit by Tyson. But I don't think Evander is known for steroids too, that's something the fans really know about. Not really the average person.

    One other thing. Is there another heavyweight more known than George Foreman? Other than Ali and Tyson of cource.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Yaman View Post
      Except he wouldn't be on jelly legs like the scared as hell Norton. He would counter, and take many heavy blows without getting knocked out in 1 or 2 rounds. Holyfield was one of the strongest HWs ever, and like you can see in his fight with Foreman, he was the only fighter that Foreman couldn't push around easily like a Frazier, Lyle or Norton. Foreman wouldn't bully him, Evander would cover up, shoulder roll etc. He'd have a good chance.
      frpm what isaw holyfield stayed away from the inside and dancing around because he was being over powered. everyone expected him to stay on the inside and slug like he did agaisnt tyson but he was smarter than that! evander was way to easy to get hit to fight foreman. dont get me wrong he could take a few punches and keep coming but after 3 or 4 rounds he would be out on his feet!

      holyfield was not capable of hurting foreman unless he could take him to the later rounds when hes tired.

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        #33
        foreman, on a side note the foreman holyfield fight was not close

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          #34
          Originally posted by hemichromis View Post
          frpm what isaw holyfield stayed away from the inside and dancing around because he was being over powered. everyone expected him to stay on the inside and slug like he did agaisnt tyson but he was smarter than that! evander was way to easy to get hit to fight foreman. dont get me wrong he could take a few punches and keep coming but after 3 or 4 rounds he would be out on his feet!

          holyfield was not capable of hurting foreman unless he could take him to the later rounds when hes tired.
          True, Holyfield had a very bad habit of Slugging with very hard hitters, hooking with left hookers, trying to shrug off uppercuts etc. This is why I pick quite a few great punchers to beat him. But seeing him box so catious and beautifully against Foreman makes me think otherwise in this case. Now, he would keep turning Foreman and stay away popping the jab. His right cross and left hook were both fast, powerfull and accurate and he would take every oppurtunity to counter Foreman, as the great counter puncher he was. But this is a young Foreman we're talking about of cource, wich means Holyfield wouldn't be turning Foreman around and outsmarting him, look at how a prime Foreman cut off the ring. It's hard to imagine Holyfield doing the same thing when we look at it like this. He's have a better shot countering him. Another thing I should adress is Foreman's uppercuts. Now, Holyfield had great defence, but imo he was the most vulnerable to uppercuts. The way he was rolling with punches, and "slicked" on the inside was very effective for him. But prime Foreman had horrific uppercuts, and I think Holyfield would get knocked out if he took to many of those. Holyfield's inside game might not even be in the fight considering it's too dangerous against Foreman. I've seen most of their fights, and now that i've been thinking more about it, I think Foreman would have most of the advantages. Holyfield doesn't have the kind of power to knock Foreman out, he could not knock an old Foreman out with 20 or so punches in a row. It's not a diffirence in heart, believe me, a young Foreman after Ali had HEART. It's just that Ron Lyle really hit that hard, so people shouldn't get any ideas of Foreman's chin being better when he was older. After Lyle he would only get knocked down by counters, because he was still very wild and not as balanced, but not when he was old. That's why he never got knocked down in his comeback.
          If i'd have to go prime for prime I think i'll go with Big George, because he was stronger, could not be dominated on the inside in this fight, had excelent ability to cut off the ring and had the power to hurt Evander any time.
          Holyfield was great on his feet jabbing, countering shots although he would need to be extra carefull, but his other assets like chin, inside fighting, slugging would not be in effect against a prime Foreman. So I go for Foreman and his lean mean grillin' machine!

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              #36
              Originally posted by Yaman View Post
              Poet, please. I like you, but you don't have to pick fights with people you don't like in many threads. It ruins it.
              I'm sorry if it bothers you Yaman, but those three make it a point to make snide comments at my posts. All I'm doing is replying in kind.

              Poet

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                #37
                Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
                I'm sorry if it bothers you Yaman, but those three make it a point to make snide comments at my posts. All I'm doing is replying in kind.

                Poet
                Oh no doubt about that, you should if it's directed at you. But they weren't doing it in this thread. But I remember you have them on ignore.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Yaman View Post
                  Oh no doubt about that, you should if it's directed at you. But they weren't doing it in this thread. But I remember you have them on ignore.
                  People tell me when they're making snidely remarks and unfortunately ignore doesn't block when people use there posts as quotes. The thing is, the three chicken****s won't take it to the Thunderdome where it belongs: They chose to keep it in the boxing forums where it's inappropriate. They look down their noses at the "commoners" who post in other forums.

                  Poet

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