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[Rusty Tromboni]

That's like saying Bowe trashing the WBC title to avoid Lewis did him no harm.

Nope. Not at all.

Lewis went on to be a dominant, if flawed, champ.

Wills wasn't that good.

Not only that, but there was more money on the table for the Wills fight than for the Tunney fight.



False. He was offered more money to fight Wills than to fight Tunney and he broke the contract to get out of it. Then claimed he would never fight Wills for the championship, but would fight him in a winner take all bout that he knew was illegal and would never come off.

Sound familiar? One of your other idols who famously ducked a Black contender said the EXACT same thing. Hmmm. At least he didn't claim to have given money for the winner take all bout to a 3rd party who admit that it was a fabrication like Dempsey did.


So Wills was good enough to fight for a winner take all bout, but not for the championship? Sounds like a duck to me.



You know what. I don't even have to go there. I can just quote old Jack for you.



I guess he forgot about this.

It's already been dispelled in this thread.

- -You shaming yourself down to Rusty level now?

Neither of you deal with factual content, rather preferring to draw your plastic cap pistols on each other in grade school High Noon comedy.

First Ring rankings ever done by Tex Rickard here. Wills drops off as Tunney the new champ.



Wills never fought JJOHNSON!

The two of you have grotesquely dragged down what started these many years ago as a higher order objective discussion over the relative merits of heavyweights.

Make a fantastic case for the De-evolution of mankind though!

Look at you trying to be relevant.

[JAB5239]

- -You shaming yourself down to Rusty level now?

Neither of you deal with factual content, rather preferring to draw your plastic cap pistols on each other in grade school High Noon comedy.

First Ring rankings ever done by Tex Rickard here. Wills drops off as Tunney the new champ.



Wills never fought JJOHNSON!

The two of you have grotesquely dragged down what started these many years ago as a higher order objective discussion over the relative merits of heavyweights.

Make a fantastic case for the De-evolution of mankind though!

A simple mistake on my part. Still doesn't take away from the argument at hand, to which you've brought nothing to the table.

How long had Wills been fighting by that time, and against how many top fighters?. This has nothing to do with his ranking when Tunney became champion. Everything to do with when Dempsey was champion.

[JAB5239]

Nope. Not at all.

Lewis went on to be a dominant, if flawed, champ.

Wills wasn't that good.



It's already been dispelled in this thread.



Look at you trying to be relevant.

You keep saying Wills wasn't that good, but he was looked at as the number one Challenger. I'm not arguing he would beat Dempsey, only that Dempsey never fought the top fighter in the division during that time.

[QueensburyRules]

A simple mistake on my part. Still doesn't take away from the argument at hand, to which you've brought nothing to the table.

- -Sonny, I helped build the TABLE here with Cane and Hascup who was up for a HOF election this year.

When U outta of U BigBoy trainers?

[JAB5239]

- -Sonny, I helped build the TABLE here with Cane and Hascup who was up for a HOF election this year.

When U outta of U BigBoy trainers?

Lmao!!! You've done nothing here. You're an antagonist, that's it. Don't ever put yourself in the same category as those other posters. Just because you pull a rabbit from your hat every once in awhile don't mean squat. Helped build this table...... LMAO!!!

[QueensburyRules]

Lmao!!! You've done nothing here. You're an antagonist, that's it. Don't ever put yourself in the same category as those other posters. Just because you pull a rabbit from your hat every once in awhile don't mean squat. Helped build this table...... LMAO!!!

- -U exposed not only in a lack of civil manners, but in boxing expertise and nuance.

Plenty more great fights before and after Wills/Dempsey never got made for a variety of reasons endemic to boxing. Wills never fought Willard nor Johnson nor Greb nor did they fight him...Duh!

[JAB5239]

- -U exposed not only in a lack of civil manners, but in boxing expertise and nuance.

Plenty more great fights before and after Wills/Dempsey never got made for a variety of reasons endemic to boxing. Wills never fought Willard nor Johnson nor Greb nor did they fight him...Duh!

And yet we're not talking about Wills place in history, we're talking about Dempsey's. If you want to get into a discussion about Wills career and the colorr line, about how he was forced to fight other top black fighters for much of his career, feel free to open that can of worms. But it will still have nothing to do with why Dempsey didn't fighter either him or Greb.

[QueensburyRules]

And yet we're not talking about Wills place in history, we're talking about Dempsey's. If you want to get into a discussion about Wills career and the colorr line, about how he was forced to fight other top black fighters for much of his career, feel free to open that can of worms. But it will still have nothing to do with why Dempsey didn't fighter either him or Greb.

- -I quote IBRO rankings *******ly.

Ring too and boxrec and my own.

U already exposed today. Gonna extend U streak tomorrow and the next day?

I happen to think highly of Harry as a man of his times, but U punking his memory with historically unsupported nonsensical 3rd millennium hand sanitized hogwash.

[JAB5239]

- -I quote IBRO rankings *******ly.

Ring too and boxrec and my own.

U already exposed today. Gonna extend U streak tomorrow and the next day?

I happen to think highly of Harry as a man of his times, but U punking his memory with historically unsupported nonsensical 3rd millennium hand sanitized hogwash.

Lol, quit while you're behind. You have nothing but rubbish answers and antagonistic remarks. Do you think you're the only one who uses those resources?

And "punking" Harry's memory? Everything I said about Dempsey not fighting him but instead fighting his leftovers can be confirmed with a quick fact check on boxrec. But I guess in you're diluted world that equals "punking". 😄

[QueensburyRules]

Lol, quit while you're behind. You have nothing but rubbish answers and antagonistic remarks. Do you think you're the only one who uses those resources?

And "punking" Harry's memory? Everything I said about Dempsey not fighting him but instead fighting his leftovers can be confirmed with a quick fact check on boxrec. But I guess in you're diluted world that equals "punking". 😄

- -Easy to pick thru the prolific Greb record to record his feasting on leftovers, but I'd have to stoop to your lowbrow level.

I rate Greb highly, but when Jack coulda fought him, he was too busy losing to Tiger Flowers. Jack fought the guy that whooped Greb, so that became your hemorrhoid that flares you up.

Only in boxing folks!