Top 10 Heavies from best to worst

[Holtol]

What do you guys think of this revised list?

1. Joe Louis
2. Muhammad
3. Jack Dempsey
4. Jack Johnson
5. Rocky Marciano
6. George Foreman
7. Joe Frazier
8. Larry Holmes
9. Sonny Liston
10. Mike Tyson

I have some revising to do and will no longer have a top 10 lsit in my signiture until I am comfortable with my new ratings.

Once I learn more I would likely have close to half of the top 10 great heavies before 1937. You only 3 or so on your list Joe louis started in the 30s I think. Still not a bad list but I think boxers pre 1940 must have been very good also. People back then were in better shape in due to working harder with less machines and football and basketball were non exsistent so boxing may have drawn more top athlete's. Other then that I can not say anything is wrong with your list.

[StarshipTrooper]

Yeah probably why a 220 lb Foreman hit harder than a 220 lb Ali, despite the fact that Ali fists were traveling at a much greater speed. Or Andre Dirrell not hitting as hard as Arthur Abraham, despite Andre having much faster handspeed (and them weighing the same.)

It's not simply speed. It's the amount of energy generated and there are a lot of factors that go into that. Simple speed is only a small part of the equation.

Poet

[Jim Jeffries]

It's not simply speed. It's the amount of energy generated and there are a lot of factors that go into that. Simple speed is only a small part of the equation.

Poet

Certainly appears that way. I do think there's a reason that Frazier got up 6 times in the first fight. Tremendous amount of energy, more than enough to knock him down, but Foreman's fists weren't traveling fast enough to knock him out.

[StarshipTrooper]

Certainly appears that way. I do think there's a reason that Frazier got up 6 times in the first fight. Tremendous amount of energy, more than enough to knock him down, but Foreman's fists weren't traveling fast enough to knock him out.

Well, in Frazier's case, it way well have been a case that he was just incredibly tough and had a better chin then some around here give him credit for. A great chin beats a great punch and this has been shown over and over again throughout boxing history.

Poet

[JAB5239]

What do you guys think of this revised list?

1. Joe Louis
2. Muhammad
3. Jack Dempsey
4. Jack Johnson
5. Rocky Marciano
6. George Foreman
7. Joe Frazier
8. Larry Holmes
9. Sonny Liston
10. Mike Tyson

I have some revising to do and will no longer have a top 10 lsit in my signiture until I am comfortable with my new ratings.

I disagree with the order but agree mostly with the choices. At the end of the day its all about opinions.

[Barn]

1. Joe Louis
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Jack Johnson
4. Larry Holmes
5. Rocky Marciano
6. George Foreman
7. Sonny Liston
8. Joe Frazier
9. Jack Dempsey
10. Jeffires
11. Charles
12. Lennox Lewis/ Gene Tunney
13. Harry Wills
14. Evander Holyfield
15. Floyd Patterson/ Jersey Joe Wallcot

[Jimbo16031992]

1. Joe Louis
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Rocky Marciano
4. Lennox Lewis
5. George Foreman
6. Sonny Liston
7. Jack Dempsey
8. Jack Johnson
9. Mike Tyson
10. Larry Holmes

[Great John L]

I think I'm finally satisfied with my list. But I think Jersey Joe Walcott, Langford, and Charles are all honorable mentions.

[Wild Blue Yonda]

What do you guys think of this revised list?

1. Joe Louis
2. Muhammad
3. Jack Dempsey
4. Jack Johnson
5. Rocky Marciano
6. George Foreman
7. Joe Frazier
8. Larry Holmes
9. Sonny Liston
10. Mike Tyson

I have some revising to do and will no longer have a top 10 lsit in my signiture until I am comfortable with my new ratings.

I think it's one of the better lists in this thread, being honest, & it's clear you've put real thought into it. My only major gripe is with Johnson, who I do not rate nearly as highly as some. However, he is obviously a popular choice for most, so that's understandable. The rest of your list is approaching impeccable for the amount of thought you have placed into it, & the result is fittingly studious.

[StarshipTrooper]

I think it's one of the better lists in this thread, being honest, & it's clear you've put real thought into it. My only major gripe is with Johnson, who I do not rate nearly as highly as some. However, he is obviously a popular choice for most, so that's understandable. The rest of your list is approaching impeccable for the amount of thought you have placed into it, & the result is fittingly studious.

I have Johnson as the #3 all-time Heavy :chuckle9:

Poet