Floyd Mayweather Jr. in history

[Brassangel]

By now, most of you are aware that Floyd Mayweather Jr. won a close [split] decision over Oscar De La Hoya. It was a pretty exciting match, though a lot of Floyd's punches hit De La Hoya's gloves until the late rounds when he (Oscar) got tired. Even so, this fight may do well for boxing, given its current state.

My main question is, where do you place Floyd Mayweather Jr. on your all-time pound-4-pound list? No era-favorites, please; just hard, critical analysis.

Do you believe his declaration of retirement after the fight?

Are there still too many good fighters for him to leave the sport?

Has he accomplished "enough"?

[caezar_stig]

gay gay gayweather

i have seen the fight and i can't believe the running chicken mayweather was called pound for pound best of the world. I hate floyd!! he is a ugly monkey who likes to run away he might as well have been a track athlete and joined the olympics not boxing what a little sissy

[Oasis_Lad]

Top 30 at best.

[ceboxer15]

Top 30 at best.

I agree, I'd also say top 30.

[titoi]

My main question is, where do you place Floyd Mayweather Jr. on your all-time pound-4-pound list? No era-favorites, please; just hard, critical analysis.

Maybe in the top 50. But his accomplishments come at a bad time for boxing so it's hard to compare him to the talent that was in boxing when they'd fill yankee stadium with fight fans. Even just looking back over the last 30 or so years, I'd expect Duran, Benitez, Leonard, Hearns, Chavez and Whitaker to beat him up. And they had the benefit of fighting each other to amplify their accomplishments whereas PBF has only now fought a substantial fighter and didn't exactly beat him up.

Do you believe his declaration of retirement after the fight?

No, but he'd be wise to do so. He doesn't seem like a durable fighter (particularly his hands) and he now could go out on top with an undefeated record. If he sticks around, particularly at this weight, he's going to get caught.

Has he accomplished "enough"?

To buy ferraris and all kinds of crap? Yes. To be considered a great in historical terms? No.

[GAME]

PBF is definatly a first ballet hall o fame fighter. But he is definately not as great as he claims. He consistently has thrown out the names of SRR, SRL, and ALi as fighters who he is better than. He is not better than those fighters. I don't have a current actual list where i can place PBF but is not among the very elite of the all time greats. He needs another fighter to bring out the best in him. For instance for him to be loved and remembered like he wants he has to have some superfights that live up to the hype. When SRL and Duran got it on in montreal they put on a wicked superfight one in which Duran got his career defining victory and even in defeat SRL proved greatness. Similar thing with the SRL VS. Hearns 1 in which SRL rallied to stop hearns late in a great superfight and even in defeat as was the case in the Hagler defeat Hearns achieved greatness with his valour. Ali's battles with Frazier cemented both fighters places in history. SRR had wars with Lamotta, Basilio, Fullmer etc. For floyd to be remembered as the best ever and loved he has to have some fights that are memorable. Last nights match with Oscar had all the hype to it but the substance of the fight was no where near the hype.

I'm not hating on PBF as he is a great boxer with awesome technical ability but i don't see him being at the very top of p4p all time lists.

Fighters i would pick to beat PBF are Duran at 135 or welter, Pryor 140, SRL 47, SRR 47, Hearns 47, Ike williams lightweight, Emile Griffith 47, Henry Armstrong perhaps.

Personally in head to head terms i think Floyd was a great fighter at 135, 40 but at welterweight he hasn't impressed much and i think he is not the same fighter he was at 35. He mainly just pot shots now and rarely ever puts a combination together.

[Salahudiyn]

theonly monkey is you STIG never insult a black man like floyd yopur probably a jealous white man or hispanic, you guys will continue to lose to us. every latin fighter loses to a black athlete its genetic SIR or Sissy?

[Underboss]

theonly monkey is you STIG never insult a black man like floyd yopur probably a jealous white man or hispanic, you guys will continue to lose to us. every latin fighter loses to a black athlete its genetic SIR or Sissy?

that made me laugh.

[Salahudiyn]

SEE that what you jealous guys wants for floyd to get caught , because we black boxeras have been using you guys for punching bags for over 100 years of beating your tito failed, your duran failed, benitiz failed, de la hoya failed, cotto will failed to but not to zab judah another brother will beat him too, de la hoya the sissy was beat by mosley, hopkins, floyd and trinidad, though mexicans are the toughest latino they failed under the black kings of the ring be well ALLL stop HAting on the chosen

[Underboss]

kid if you like to express your opinion of your ''black kings'' atleast learn how to spell people's names.