Lennox Lewis.

[Phunky Villian]

pretty even argument here....
prime tyson - could obvo knock lewis out
prime lewis - abit more work than tyson, but again lewis could easy knock tyson out.
the question is.......who would have been ko'ed.

lewis - tyson was in no way a peak point in lewis' match ups.
main points were - lewis - rahman 1 and 2, and also maybe the klitchscko TKO win, very hard fight for lewis which [IMO] help his retirement decion.

im a very big lewis fan and id of loved to see a prime lewis - tyson fight although the possiblity of tyson ko'ing lewis would be higher, id of just hoped lewis would have been on form and boxed well.
peace.

[aljon]

Lol you're pretty hilarious.
LEWIS was the one that said he could never beat prime Tyson IN AN INTERVIEW. Give me the source to Tyson stating it the other way around please.
Why did Tyson act like that at the press conference? How about looking at proof instead of reading minds again. How do you know he psyched himself out into beating Lewis? You have no proof whatsoever.
The truth is that Tyson wanted to hype the fight up, and before the conference he talked about it with one of the managers. In fact, after the brawl was over Tyson asked him ''How did i do?''. That has nothing to do with him beating Lewis anyway.
To your original topic, Lewis beat a ghost that night. That's it.

There ain't nothing funny about Lewis completely dominating Tyson.
Lewis has the style to beat prime Tyson, Lewis was trained by Emanuel Stewart most of his career to fight his way around short powerful guys like Tua, Holyfield and Tyson, that was bread and butter for Lewis...
If you notice Lewis was never in trouble against short guys, rarely got hit flush by those kind of opponents... Tall guys like Briggs, Klitschko ect.. guys with longass reach like Rahman gave Lewis trouble... Tyson would never be able to beat him, I can't show you the interview where Tyson said that he could never beat Lewis since I saw it live but you can't give me that "prove it that he said it". There's no reason I would lie about it, I'm pretty sure a lot of people heard Tyson say that...Lewis can neutralize Tyson's hooks all night long...
I've been following Lewis since his Olympic appearances. I know what I'm talking about... Don't be fooled by Tyson's flashy performances in his short prime and weak opposition...(example Douglas) it just shows your boxing ignorance...

[butterfly1964]

There ain't nothing funny about Lewis completely dominating Tyson.
Lewis has the style to beat prime Tyson, Lewis was trained by Emanuel Stewart most of his career to fight his way around short powerful guys like Tua, Holyfield and Tyson, that was bread and butter for Lewis...
If you notice Lewis was never in trouble against short guys, rarely got hit flush by those kind of opponents... Tall guys like Briggs, Klitschko ect.. guys with longass reach like Rahman gave Lewis trouble... Tyson would never be able to beat him, I can't show you the interview where Tyson said that he could never beat Lewis since I saw it live but you can't give me that "prove it that he said it". There's no reason I would lie about it, I'm pretty sure a lot of people heard Tyson say that...Lewis can neutralize Tyson's hooks all night long...
I've been following Lewis since his Olympic appearances. I know what I'm talking about... Don't be fooled by Tyson's flashy performances in his short prime and weak opposition...(example Douglas) it just shows your boxing ignorance...

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[Brassangel]

Prime Mike Tyson beats Prime Lennox Lewis.

Prime Lennox Lewis was a very skilled fighter, though he wasn't too swift on his feet. If one watches him in the early-mid 90's (ie: flat-top Brit), Lewis' attacks were awkward (not the good kind of awkward), and telegraphed. He often stood with his legs wider than his shoulders and planted himself in place, hoping to dodge opposing punches with a parrying set of hands. Mike would catch up to him all night long, and attack his wide open body. Lewis would eventually start trying to push Mike away while pinning his elbows to his own ribs. This would no doubt leave openings for overhand rights and uppercuts, neither of which Lewis could take very well. Oh, and when I say "eventually" I mean round 5 or 6.

I wrote another post touching on this subject in a thread titled "What if..". I think in their primes in the 90's (which Tyson likely would have stayed in had he not gone to prison), Mike wins in usual fashion. As their careers wear on, however, Lewis begins to improve while Mike's enthusiasm for the game and his speed diminish. In a later rematch down the road, Lewis wins, though it wouldn't be as hotly debated (or self-vaunted by Lewis) as the real match.

Even so, Lennox Lewis beat Mike Tyson in 2002, nearly 11 years after his prime years were flushed to criminal trouble. Lennox, on the other hand, like a fine wine, aged very well by that point and got into good shape for the fight. He was obviously respecting Tyson, regardless of his age, and took the fight very seriously. It still took him 8 rounds to put away a man who was no more than a shadow and a memory, and who also didn't want to fight anymore.

Regardless of what's been said here, Lennox Lewis is and all-time great in the heavyweights; probably between 10-12th all time, though I think he would stand a decent chance anywhere in history given his size and skill.

[Brassangel]

Oh yeah, and as far as "...he said he could/couldn't beat him..." goes, that really doesn't prove anything.

Muhammad Ali told the nation on a talk show that Mike Tyson would beat him in their primes. While he would certainly have a chance (under Rooney), that doesn't PROVE he's right. Actually, we could go on for pages about the things Muhammad Ali said (and later changed his mind about) that probably aren't absolutely true. That being said, I don't even need to continue.

[sleazyfellow]

history wont be to kind to lewis, which is a shame cause he was good. Its just like evander holyfield and all the others who came after tyson, no interest, nothing that really stands out. Tyson is the dempsy of 80s,90s, ppl will be talking about him more even when hes dead and long gone way more than they'll be talking of lewis, holyfield. But anyways, tyson prime time kos lewis, if u watch legendary nights for this fight lewis says back then "he hoped he didnt have to fight this guy, cause he was like an animal"

[The Surgeon]

ROBO #1 > Lewis!

Really tho i cant stand the ****er, and as far as im concerend his Tyson win means less than nothing.
He was hard man to beat tho

[Southpaw Stinger]

Oh yeah, and as far as "...he said he could/couldn't beat him..." goes, that really doesn't prove anything.

Muhammad Ali told the nation on a talk show that Mike Tyson would beat him in their primes. While he would certainly have a chance (under Rooney), that doesn't PROVE he's right. Actually, we could go on for pages about the things Muhammad Ali said (and later changed his mind about) that probably aren't absolutely true. That being said, I don't even need to continue.

yep thats right. although he said much different in private, or so I've read.

[BKM-]

There ain't nothing funny about Lewis completely dominating Tyson.
Lewis has the style to beat prime Tyson, Lewis was trained by Emanuel Stewart most of his career to fight his way around short powerful guys like Tua, Holyfield and Tyson, that was bread and butter for Lewis...
If you notice Lewis was never in trouble against short guys, rarely got hit flush by those kind of opponents... Tall guys like Briggs, Klitschko ect.. guys with longass reach like Rahman gave Lewis trouble... Tyson would never be able to beat him,

That's what you believe and i have no problems with that. I do have problems with things like

I can't show you the interview where Tyson said that he could never beat Lewis since I saw it live but you can't give me that "prove it that he said it". There's no reason I would lie about it

As much as you love Lewis and believe he would beat Tyson, there is a million reasons for you to lie about it. I'm not calling you a liar, but you shouldn't even think about saying this when it's clear Lewis never said this, and he actually said the opposite about a prime Tyson, unless you have solid proof. Even if you have proof, you still have nothing credible like Brassangel said.

I've been following Lewis since his Olympic appearances. I know what I'm talking about... Don't be fooled by Tyson's flashy performances in his short prime and weak opposition...(example Douglas) it just shows your boxing ignorance

Believe me, i'm not biased concerning Tyson. You are with Lewis. You are so desperate for people to believe Lewis would beat Tyson, that you state things that have no proof or are either redicilous mind reading analogy's. No dissrespect to you though.

[Benny Leonard]

no...because lennox thinks he beat the 80's tyson...but everyone knows he beat washed up tyson

No he doesn't. Lennox was saying for a long time that Mike Tyson was a has-been, but people will not let go, so he will finish the job.

It's funny when it comes to Tyson or really any fighter that used to be good, he could struggle in a match, like he did vs. Both in which the commentators were saying "this is the sign of a shot fighter", then out of nowhere he lands a bomb, and "HE's BACK"


Lewis deserves respect and will be remembered as a "Great" fighter. I have said this before, but his biggest win was making Bowe back down, that was just incredible, and the best win a General can have.