Originally posted by Bobby Pazuzu
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Was Leonard the complete fighter?
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duran beat leanord on leanord best day while giving up every physical advantage in the book it was so remarkable, in the rematch he took the money and ran, but duran is a far more skilled boxer then leanord all you got to do is watch the brawl in montreal, he took leanord to school, i went to school where the words out of leanords mouth, leanord was so great but the way he handled his carreer ****ed him
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Originally posted by shortright View Postduran beat leanord on leanord best day while giving up every physical advantage in the book it was so remarkable, in the rematch he took the money and ran, but duran is a far more skilled boxer then leanord all you got to do is watch the brawl in montreal, he took leanord to school, i went to school where the words out of leanords mouth, leanord was so great but the way he handled his carreer ****ed him
In the rematch he boxed and frustrated the **** outa Duran. Its true im sure Duran was not in great shape, but Leonard still made him quit.
He beat Duran 2/3. Yet people use their very close first fight to discredit Leonard wen hardly anyone could have fought for 15 rounds with Duran.
And as i said before, Leonard beat the much bigger Hearns who also had all the advantages
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Leonard one of the all time greats, no doubt. Beating Benetiz, Hearns, Duran and Hagler. Great resume. I can't see how knocking someone out can be deemed a 'dicey' victory. Leonard displayed great repertoire in that fight with Hearns. First boxer, then puncher. How many other guys stood in front of Hearns and forced him to be the counter-puncher?
He lost the first fight against the great Duran fighting Duran's style of fight, yet it was a narrow loss. He avenged this dramatically in their second fight. If you had said before that second fight that Leonard would completely dominate Duran and that Duran would quit i.e. technical KO, you would have been locked up.
Leonard could fight inside or outside. He had great power, great foot and body movement and very fast hands. Was he conniving, a tough negotiator, round stealer, media darling - yes. But he was also a superb fighter with a magnificent body of work.
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Originally posted by Bobby Pazuzu View PostBut Leonard was a boxer, with Duran in the first fight he chose not to box but outfight Duran which very few men ever could.
In the rematch he boxed and frustrated the **** outa Duran. Its true im sure Duran was not in great shape, but Leonard still made him quit.
He beat Duran 2/3. Yet people use their very close first fight to discredit Leonard wen hardly anyone could have fought for 15 rounds with Duran.
And as i said before, Leonard beat the much bigger Hearns who also had all the advantages
duran leanord 2 eas an embarrsment cause duran was heavily involed in ******* duran beat leanrd on his best night, leanord knew this and forced an immediate rematch, and duran threw the fight
the third fight was meanigless, duran jsut had his last great fight with barkley, neihter duran nor leanord won a a important fight after duran leanord three it tells you how important it was, the next fight leanord got crushed by terry norris
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Originally posted by shortright View Post2 out of three duran didnt prepare phyically of mentally for the second fight and the result speaks for itself, listen to how ****** its sounds duran beats leanord then in the rematch duran quits in the 8th duran threw the fight he just gave everything he has phyically and mentally to beat leanord, he let himself loose got involved in ******* and took the money and ran, max kellerman had duran leanord 1 as his most suggnificent fight of the past 30 years, dont beleive what i say check the leanord bio on coxs corner about a great a boxing site youll find
duran leanord 2 eas an embarrsment cause duran was heavily involed in ******* duran beat leanrd on his best night, leanord knew this and forced an immediate rematch, and duran threw the fight
the third fight was meanigless, duran jsut had his last great fight with barkley, neihter duran nor leanord won a a important fight after duran leanord three it tells you how important it was, the next fight leanord got crushed by terry norris
Duran quit because he was being beaten, and humiliated by Leonards showboating. But Leonard obviously fought very well in that fight and he deserves credit for making Duran quit.
If Duran didnt prepare then thats his problem, it has no baring on Leonards acheivement.
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My favourite fighter of all time, he was the closest thing to a complete fighter outside of Ray Robinson.
He could box, he could brawl, he could make you look ******, there wasn't much that he couldn't do, he was also a terrific athlete, anybody who doesn't have him in their top 10 all time P4P list is crazy.
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Originally posted by Bobby Pazuzu View PostDuran quit because he was being beaten, and humiliated by Leonards showboating. But Leonard obviously fought very well in that fight and he deserves credit for making Duran quit.
If Duran didnt prepare then thats his problem, it has no baring on Leonards acheivement.
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Let's see. Two fisted power, blinding handspeed, excellent mobility, tight defence, solid chin, technically proficient, mixed attack to head and body, adaptable to the highest levels of swarmers (Duran), southpaws (Hagler, Kalule) punchers (Hearns) and boxers (Benitez). Leonard won going forward (Hearns), on the backfoot (Hagler) and the chess match (Benitez). Leonard also showed the ability to come from behind to win, get off the deck to win, win rematches and holds stoppage victories over 3 different triple weight champions. He also holds KO victories over two men who held the light-heavyweight title. I'd say he's pretty complete.Last edited by SABBATH; 03-11-2007, 10:20 PM.
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