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    #11
    Originally posted by kushking View Post
    Exactly...... Everyone knew for decades. Lane used to brag about it. Those crips bragged about it.

    My issue is hiw people don't realize how much Puffy was involved. The media made it seem like Suge was the big bad wolf and Puffy and Biggie were innocent.

    Puffy was involved. And Biggie was dissing him after he died
    The truth is we'll never know for sure til someone is caught(never) we can take some loudmouthed gangsters word for it but it doesn't make it true,I know plenty of ppl from several gangs in south LA(Black & mexicans)

    I personally don't believe the shooter would brag about it to anyone else not directly involved & they wouldn't know exactly when & where Tupac was & when hed be vulnerable(if it was so open & shut as you say they'd have gotten them easily imo,lapd would pin it on Baby in a heartbeat as would LVPD which I know 1sthand would love to jail another thug for murder with minimal evidence because the jury would hang them no matter what.

    (The guy that wrote the book accusing Baby, was a cop,cops have proven to stick up for each other above justice,& the Lapd death row employee to me had actual evidence against him & a way to know where Tupac was & how vulnerable)

    But bottom line is Baby could've been the one to do it & he might be a convenient fall guy because hes dead & can't defend himself.(he had proof he was in NY supposedly)[/QUOTE]

    Nope.... People been knew. And gang members do brag about their crimes in their hoods around their set. Stuff never stay secret. U gain too much for your reputation to keep your mouth shut. Almost a 1/4 of being in the streets is street gossip. 🤷

    Baby lane own Aunt called the police on him, his Uncle told on him after he died, confirmed another rumor that connected Puffy and a guy name zip. Even Baby Lane best friend one of Eazy E artists admit he did it. Everyone in LA knew. Even Bone thugs n harmony recently brought up being in the studio with Biggie and the guy who killed Pac.



    People really kept their mouth shut untill now. But it was the worst kept secret in hip hop history.

    The streets knew, why a war broke out immediately afterwards.


    People don't understand the whole death row bad boy beef was really Suge vs Puffy. After Puff bodyguard killed one of Suge guys.Then Puff hired southside crips then it turned into a gang war.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Lomadeaux View Post
      Yea, don't say ****** **** man.
      People just can't accept that someone like Pac got killed the way he did.

      Common sense. The guy he stomped out already killed multiple people. A guy with a rep like that gonna kill first ask questions later.

      I hate these conspiracies, it take away the lesson that should be learned from.the situation

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        #13
        Good speech. If 2Pac woulda lived he'd probably have a different flavor today, but be able to engage people to the same level if not better.

        As to the murder stuff, which its impossible to talk about 2Pac without mentioning it seems as grim as that all is, are mfers saying it was a coincidence 2Pac & Baby Lane got into a fight or w/e after the Seldon fight before BL was to merk him? If I'm about to kill someone I'm not getting into a fight with them on camera right before lol. Whats that angle with this or am I missing something? I mean whats the fooking odds you get into an altercation with the guy you got hired to kill right before you are going to kill them?

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          #14
          Originally posted by KillaMane26 View Post
          People just can't accept that someone like Pac got killed the way he did.
          I think young deaths are always hard to digest for folks. And music is huge when you are young. I mean people are still out there wearing Selena shirts too. And there are lotsa mfers who have a post-death fame & have become almost a myth or part of some sorta real life fable I kinda wanna say like 2Pac.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
            Good speech. If 2Pac woulda lived he'd probably have a different flavor today, but be able to engage people to the same level if not better.

            As to the murder stuff, which its impossible to talk about 2Pac without mentioning it seems as grim as that all is, are mfers saying it was a coincidence 2Pac & Baby Lane got into a fight or w/e after the Seldon fight before BL was to merk him? If I'm about to kill someone I'm not getting into a fight with them on camera right before lol. Whats that angle with this or am I missing something? I mean whats the fooking odds you get into an altercation with the guy you got hired to kill right before you are going to kill them?
            From experience shyt be like that.
            Anytime I ever had beef with someone, I always ran into them. Anytime I get locked up I run into people. It's like the universe be doing the shyt on purpose. Ask anybody in a gang about Karma, energy, and coincidences!

            And they said what happened...They went looking and couldn't find him, then heard girls screaming his name in traffic. The girls even confirmed their side of the story.

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              #16
              the speech im looking for is when Death Row had that "brotherhood crusade" in August 1996. Pac had like a 20 minute speech where he spoke on the government, voting and everything else.. this video about it is chopped and edited so the speech cannot be head smh. some bullsht

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                #17
                Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
                Good speech. If 2Pac woulda lived he'd probably have a different flavor today, but be able to engage people to the same level if not better.

                As to the murder stuff, which its impossible to talk about 2Pac without mentioning it seems as grim as that all is, are mfers saying it was a coincidence 2Pac & Baby Lane got into a fight or w/e after the Seldon fight before BL was to merk him? If I'm about to kill someone I'm not getting into a fight with them on camera right before lol. Whats that angle with this or am I missing something? I mean whats the fooking odds you get into an altercation with the guy you got hired to kill right before you are going to kill them?
                Maybe the plan wasn't to kill him until the beef happened. You know how it is, feelings get hurt and the guns come next.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by KillaMane26 View Post
                  From experience shyt be like that.
                  Anytime I ever had beef with someone, I always ran into them. Anytime I get locked up I run into people. It's like the universe be doing the shyt on purpose. Ask anybody in a gang about Karma, energy, and coincidences!

                  And they said what happened...They went looking and couldn't find him, then heard girls screaming his name in traffic. The girls even confirmed their side of the story.
                  Yea idk that part seems off to me. I don't think Puff couldn't have hired a hit on 2Pac its just this seems too big of a coincidence to me. Its too sexy of a story basically when you throw in the music mogul putting a hit on an artist.

                  I think 2Pac just ran afoul of the wrong guy is the more likely story. And I think the rest is probably beef against Puff by west coast folks or just a game of telephone reaching its natural outcome. Although I do give it a small % chance of being true & a huge coincidence.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by man down View Post
                    Maybe the plan wasn't to kill him until the beef happened. You know how it is, feelings get hurt and the guns come next.
                    Idk man running into the group who was offered a job to kill you that they turned down or w/e & getting into a beef with them still seems unlikely. Possible, just unlikely.

                    But yea I guess if it did happen then Imma let the guy who got beat up fire the shot so that part makes sense.

                    And I don't think thats even the story. I think they accepted the job & then run into the guy they are booked to murder AND get into a fight with him somehow lol.

                    Maybe I'm crazy, but if I got into a fight with the guy I've agreed to murder on camera in a famous casino after a huge boxing PPV fight its a solid bet Imma call it off unless someone is about to murder me if I don't follow through. Too much risk of heat on me. Fook that.

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                      #20
                      You guys need to learn how to quote properly...

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