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    Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo View Post
    I once said that New York would be the site of the most epic failure of the vaccine in the history of the disease and here we have it



    Look at that. 38,000 new cases and there is no end in sight. Most people in the state took the vaccine. This is a disastrous failure.
    So how many more or less people would have got it in NY if they weren't vaccinated? How many would have died and how many hospitalised? Presumably you must have those figures otherwise you wouldn't know whether it was a 'success' or a 'failure' right?

    When you're talking about this kinda disease outbreak success or failure ain't absolute but relative measures.

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      Originally posted by Madison boxing View Post
      4th booster looking at being brought in earlier than planned for widespread use in UK as study show booster effect only lasts for 2 months. youll need 4th booster then wait for omnicron specific vaccine sometime after in late spring/early summer to get your full protection against the current strains. situation constantly under review to see if further vaccines are needed
      Thanks for the updates!

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        Originally posted by man down View Post
        TodayAn individual with omicron is 50% to 70% less likely to be admitted to hospital, compared with the delta strain, the U.K. Health Security Agency said Thursday. They are also between 31% and 45%
        Welp unlucky guys.. pandemic over (i mean.. to normal sane people.. it was over a year ago) but this is the final nail in the coffin

        Good luck getting people to vax after saying Omicron will be the dominant variant and now it appears far less "DEADLY" then delta/beta which weren't particularly deadly for the vast majority of people anyway

        Looks like the resident basement dwellers around here will be mad AF that free money wont be given to them for nothing anymore
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          RNA vaccines have the potential to turn us into 'superhumans'- scientist in interview with BBC says the covid vaccines are just the start of this, she said the pharma companies are working on providing a '****tail of vaccines' with 'different flavours' that can be used against a variety of conditions and we could even get one for lactose intolerance. Helped to calm fears regarding the 11x higher risk of anaphylactic reaction with RNA jabs compared to a traditional flu jab, wasnt particularly concerned and says it is a new vaccine and they are still monitoring and learning about the reaction. spoke with pride about how she has been messaged with people telling her 'you are the reason i got my vaccine'
          Last edited by Madison Boxing; 12-24-2021, 06:13 AM.

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            Originally posted by Madison boxing View Post
            4th booster looking at being brought in earlier than planned for widespread use in UK as study show booster effect only lasts for 2 months. youll need 4th booster then wait for omnicron specific vaccine sometime after in late spring/early summer to get your full protection against the current strains. situation constantly under review to see if further vaccines are needed
            ROFL.. can the covid vax lovers finally admit that the vaccine is just not working

            Or AT LEAST not working anything like was promised/expected

            2 fkin months?

            Doesn't stop you catching it either

            And that's just 2 obvious categories it fails in..

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              Originally posted by man down View Post

              Yeah I heard that no thanks. The funny part is they tell you that you need to be fully vaxxed. Then they say if you had covid you should get one shot and get "super immunity " the issue there is one shot won't count lol.

              I'll just take my chances. I'm good lol. Omicron is the vaccine.
              Alot of people who get infected with Omicron end up in the hospital. Unvaccinated people are the main group. What is most likely going to happen is the hospitals are going to be overloaded and people who should get treatment for suspected severe conditions won't get the proper initial diagnosis. It's about keeping yourself safe and other people safe. Not to mention people with underlying conditions who get infected. Many of these people don't even realize that the have an underlying condition. Then they end up in the hospital or worse.

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                Originally posted by MOTHERDUCKER View Post

                ROFL.. can the covid vax lovers finally admit that the vaccine is just not working

                Or AT LEAST not working anything like was promised/expected

                2 fkin months?

                Doesn't stop you catching it either

                And that's just 2 obvious categories it fails in..
                The vaccines work against the variants that were prevalent at the time they were developed. They provide more protection from Omicron than being unvaccinated. Why don't unvaccinated people admit that their choice doesn't work. It's obvious to everyone but them that staying unvaccinated is a piss poor strategy to take on in the middle of a viral pandemic. They make up they bulk of hospitalizations and deaths.
                Last edited by TonyGe; 12-24-2021, 08:18 AM.

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                  Originally posted by TonyGe View Post

                  The vaccines work against the variants that was prevalent at the time they were developed. They provide more protection from Omicron than being unvaccinated. Why don't unvaccinated people admit that their choice doesn't work. It's obvious to everyone but them that staying unvaccinated is a piss poor strategy to take on in the middle of a viral pandemic. They make up they bulk of hospitalizations and deaths.
                  how is it a piss poor strategy to not get a vaccine for something ive already had with a stronger strain that didnt really do a lot? am i going to get the weaker omnicron variant and suddenly drop down dead? or do you believe main****** media, tony blair, archbishop of canterbury etc that im some walking covid factory that has it in my system 365 days a year spreading it to everyone lol.

                  also today 'Dr Zudin Puthucheary, a member of the Intensive Care Society and doctor in London, said the number of patients coming into hospital who 'happen to be Covid positive' is skewing hospitalisation statistics.'
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                    Originally posted by MOTHERDUCKER View Post

                    Welp unlucky guys.. pandemic over (i mean.. to normal sane people.. it was over a year ago) but this is the final nail in the coffin

                    Good luck getting people to vax after saying Omicron will be the dominant variant and now it appears far less "DEADLY" then delta/beta which weren't particularly deadly for the vast majority of people anyway

                    Looks like the resident basement dwellers around here will be mad AF that free money wont be given to them for nothing anymore
                    they'll still find some way to try and keep this going, the reinfection one is my favourite as if the weaker versions are going to have more effect on people who have already had a stronger version. pretty much eveyrones had covid now its been spreading for 2 years, starting to become very clear that hospitals arent even remotely close of being 'overwhelmed' certainly not cause of the influx of patients.
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                      also asked this before but didnt get an answer. for the vaccine police, were you this strict on everyone getting vaccine when it came to flu seasons? not long ago we had 20k dead in winter in one wave, just cant remember all the shaming of people who didnt get the vaccine. or did you just start becoming really strict on it after main****** media started telling you to do it?
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