[REAL TALK] How can the education system be changed to help all children to get a better education and help kids later in life?

[Fists_of_Fury]

Some communities are doing worse than others. How can we help these kids and make them want a quality education? What can be done to the education system to help kids get a better education and help them in adulthood? Throwing $ at schools clearly doesn't help, look at Baltimore schools.

[Fists_of_Fury]

Kwame Brown has suggested putting trades and coding in schools. I think that's a great suggestion. I think a mandatory class on how to do taxes and how to best build credit would be nice. Less political and divisive stuff would be great. I also feel that sexual education needs taken out of schools with all the gender nonsense and sexual deviant sheeit nowadays.

[JimRaynor]

Education starts first and foremost at home. Discipline and respect, and that usually means you need the father there to enforce it. You can have a severly underfunded school, but that kid coming home to face his dad whose strict about grades will at the very least be a C student who will pass. You can throw all the money at the school and if the kid has no one he's accountable to at home it means nothing.

[travestyny]

As I said in the other thread, the money allotted for education has to be spent properly and show results, first off.

But also, these areas need to be invested in. They have faced many years of disinvestment. Look at things like this. This shouldn't happen.

Sorely missing is a long-planned east-west transit route that would connect isolated Black Baltimore neighborhoods to downtown and suburban job centers and to other rail lines. In 2014, the ***** administration offered Maryland a selective “New Starts” grant of $900 million to finally build what was called the Red Line — a project that would not only have connected thousands of Black Marylanders to better jobs but would also create a comprehensive transit system that might restart the Baltimore region’s economy and improve race relations by building literal connections between communities.
Today, there’s no construction of rail in Baltimore. The $900 million has been returned to the federal government. The state of Maryland redirected $736 million of state funds originally set aside for the Red Line to building roads instead — in predominantly white areas. And the U.S. Department of Transportation, which was supposed to investigate whether that decision was illegal and discriminatory, quietly closed the case without making any public findings.

Transportation investment and disinvestment have been central in Baltimore’s of racial segregation and inequity, and the Red Line was the most recent chapter. Since Gov. Larry Hogan killed the Red Line in 2015, it has become a rallying cry for transit and racial-justice activists in Baltimore and beyond.

When the people there don't have access to enough opportunities, that's going to be a major issue. Of course many will turn to crime and push education to the side. $900 million returned to the Federal Government?????? Money diverted to build roads in predominantly White neighborhoods??? Someone should literally be shot for this idiocy. If it's that Governor, so be it. Invest in these neighborhoods and help create an environment where people can make an honest living and kids can attend school without worrying about flying bullets.

Ps. I don't want to turn this into a political discussion, but since some of you always dwell on the ********ic mayors, what say you about this ********** governor? Shouldn't he share the blame?

[Fists_of_Fury]

As I said in the other thread, the money allotted for education has to be spent properly and show results, first off.

But also, these areas need to be invested in. They have faced many years of disinvestment. Look at things like this. This shouldn't happen.





When the people there don't have access to enough opportunities, that's going to be a major issue. Of course many will turn to crime and push education to the side. $900 million returned to the Federal Government?????? Money diverted to build roads in predominantly White neighborhoods??? Someone should literally be shot for this idiocy. If it's that Governor, so be it. Invest in these neighborhoods and help create an environment where people can make an honest living and kids can attend school without worrying about flying bullets.

Ps. I don't want to turn this into a political discussion, but since some of you always dwell on the ********ic mayors, what say you about this ********** governor? Shouldn't he share the blame?

I am a registered Independent. I know that all parties have pieces of sheeit in them. That piece of sheeit should get the guillotine along with tons of others. I think diverting funds should not be allowed and should be illegal. There is rarely any accountability for public servants that f**k us over. I wish there was extreme punishments for the ones that do. It would give them an incentive to not f**k us over.

In Pennsylvania they diverted aka stole road and bridge $ and gave it to the police.

Now they want to tax us more, make bridges tolls, etc... since there is a supposed lack of funds to fix roads and bridges.


Guillotine for all the corrupt pieces of sheeit.

[-Kev-]

Kids that are going on the wrong path just need more adults to talk to them. I agree it starts at home. But changes can absolutely happen at school too.

Think about it, kids are not born evil criminals who want to be the neighborhood drug kingpin and live in prison. Deviant behavior and juvenile delinquency is taught by the child’s peers, neighbors, family (like older brother who is a drug dealer). The drug dealing, drug using, robbing, burglarizing, “street thug” is an attitude adopted by everyone of every race, including white people.

These are socio-economic and education issues in the US. I can tell you for a fact, in the prison I worked for, white inmates outnumbered black inmates. I understand that black people get locked up at a higher rate than white people. But it is still alarming and should show everyone that targeting only one group of people in this case, is not going to make things better overall.

You can police one group all you want, but the poor school districts are a nationwide issue. US is not ranked #20+ in best educational systems in the world because they have great educational system. Among developed/advanced countries, US pre-k through 12th grade system is constantly ranked out side of the top 15. There are even developing countries ranked higher than the US. Meanwhile the US ranks #1 with their military. The US priority is military. Education is at the bottom of the barrel in the US.

So it’s a nationwide issue that is affecting all groups of people.

[Fists_of_Fury]

Kids that are going on the wrong path just need more adults to talk to them. I agree it starts at home. But changes can absolutely happen at school too.

Think about it, kids are not born evil criminals who want to be the neighborhood drug kingpin and live in prison. Deviant behavior and juvenile delinquency is taught by the child’s peers, neighbors, family (like older brother who is a drug dealer). The drug dealing, drug using, robbing, burglarizing, “street thug” is an attitude adopted by everyone of every race, including white people.

These are socio-economic and education issues in the US. I can tell you for a fact, in the prison I worked for, white inmates outnumbered black inmates. I understand that black people get locked up at a higher rate than white people. But it is still alarming and should show everyone that targeting only one group of people in this case, is not going to make things better overall.

You can police one group all you want, but the poor school districts are a nationwide issue. US is not ranked #20+ in best educational systems in the world because they have great educational system. Among developed/advanced countries, US pre-k through 12th grade system is constantly ranked out side of the top 15. There are even developing countries ranked higher than the US. Meanwhile the US ranks #1 with their military. The US priority is military. Education is at the bottom of the barrel in the US.

So it’s a nationwide issue that is affecting all groups of people.

What kind of programs would you suggest for schools to help? What would attract these kind of kids to help better themselves? A good mentoring program could help but what kind of people would be best suited to mentor that these kids would listen to? Maybe some after school programs? I like cars. We had vocational school that did autobody and stuff in my area. I know not too many are into working on cars though.

[Theodore]

A cultural shift on the value of an education within these communities would help more than any money would, imo. Considering the numbers are out that many public schools like Baltimore are heavily funded but the results are not encouraging.

[Zaroku]

Test the teachers for competency.
Get parents involved
Prioritize $$& spent
Constantly monitor progress
Smaller class sizes

[-Kev-]

What kind of programs would you suggest for schools to help? What would attract these kind of kids to help better themselves? A good mentoring program could help but what kind of people would be best suited to mentor that these kids would listen to? Maybe some after school programs? I like cars. We had vocational school that did autobody and stuff in my area. I know not too many are into working on cars though.

I think that would be an excellent idea and I wish I had that option in my schools. Because I actually had a lot of interest on learning hands-on.

You know, in one of the top counties in Utah, there is a high school, and right next to the high school there is a trade school ran by the county. In this trade school, as an adult, you need to pay, a very minimal fee, like i’m talking about $3k for the entire 4-year program. They have all sorts of plans to pay it and accept financial aid. It’s not $3k up front. But still, $3k for 4 years beats $3k per college course.

But here is the good part: It’s free to High School students of that county. Totally free.

I was an adolescent that would have absolutely taken advantage of such a thing. As I remember always googling apprenticeship opportunities as a kid. Just out of my knowledge of looking for information about career paths. Teachers/schools would not inform kids about these options. They shove college down our throats. Those opportunities were just not there, not like that. There was always some bs entry requirement and there was none ran by the government, offering it for free for HS students, like that Utah county. For this county I speak of, no bs requirements, just apply on time to get in. The barriers to entry were non existent. Just turn everything in on time to get your seat.

This option would absolutely help minority communities. It would not eliminate all issues and crimes. But it would be a great start. Give kids opportunities to work hands-on if they want to. Show them the mechanic, electrician, plumbing, carpentry routes. This trade school even has health professions, like nursing, emt, fire fighter, pharmacy, surgery tech. It’s amazing. I did not have this.

I am lucky that I got out of that neighborhood, but many aren’t as lucky. I have a bachelor’s and master’s degree, student loans, and I wish I didn’t. I wish had another route.