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    Originally posted by Real King Kong View Post

    It’s relevant because it was a the so called lesser use of force to pin him to the ground in the first place, if their argument is that he was just doing what he thought he was trained to do.

    I think it becomes deadly force by the duration more so than the action.
    If you believe it was deadly force, then you have your intent for the felony associated with murder 2

    Subdivision 1.Deadly force defined.

    For the purposes of this section, "deadly force" means force which the actor uses with the purpose of causing, or which the actor should reasonably know creates a substantial risk of causing, death or great bodily harm.

    Originally posted by Real King Kong View Post
    I would say it could qualify as depraved if you can prove he was aware of the gravity of the situation from his vantage point.
    So you're saying that kneeling on the neck of a man who had no pulse was reasonable or can be seen as reasonable under the circumstances of the case? Again, I'm not asking you to play defense attorney. I'm asking your simple opinion as if you were a juror.

    Also, if you look at the definition for deadly force, that would explain he reasonably should have known the gravity of his actions, being that he would reasonably know his actions could risk death or great bodily harm.

    It seems to me that you would fall in line with murder 2 and/or murder 3, not merely manslaughter.
    Last edited by travestyny; 04-11-2021, 04:39 PM.
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      Originally posted by OldTerry View Post
      Whether or not he is guilty is pretty much a matter of opinion. The prosecution's witnesses and version of the facts have been shown to be fallible as the defense calls its' own experts and cross examines the state's witnesses. I believe because emotion is running so high on this case that Chauvin more or less has the cards stacked against him as far as the verdict. Personally I believe there is reasonable doubt as defined by law but then again I'm simply an imperfect man with an opinion.
      This poster turned out to be a damn joke.

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        Originally posted by Shadoww702 View Post

        I didn't lose dummy. They sued everyone! Screaming Racism like u always do.

        That's an easy bet to make. Can't hide when AJ gets KO'd. Then bye Felicia
        That wasn't the bet you agreed to.

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          Originally posted by OldTerry View Post
          Whether or not he is guilty is pretty much a matter of opinion. The prosecution's witnesses and version of the facts have been shown to be fallible as the defense calls its' own experts and cross examines the state's witnesses. I believe because emotion is running so high on this case that Chauvin more or less has the cards stacked against him as far as the verdict. Personally I believe there is reasonable doubt as defined by law but then again I'm simply an imperfect man with an opinion.
          Well failing to be convinced beyond all reasonable doubt by the Prosecution after watching their complete presentation makes more sense than having your mind completely made up before the Defense has even begun theirs. I doubt the Farrakhan Clan will agree though.

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            Originally posted by 2shameless View Post

            Well failing to be convinced beyond all reasonable doubt by the Prosecution after watching their complete presentation makes more sense than having your mind completely made up before the Defense has even begun theirs. I doubt the Farrakhan Clan will agree though.
            You're aware of what, "At this point," means, right? Perhaps that was a bit hard to process for you.

            Originally posted by travestyny View Post


            With regards to the first sentence --exactly. They are asking your opinion.


            So in other words, you believe he should be found not guilty of any of the charges at this point?

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              Originally posted by OldTerry View Post

              Probably true, regardless of innocence or guilt.
              Innocent?? He's as guilty as sin.
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                Originally posted by Shadoww702 View Post

                I owe no one any money. But I've lost quite a few bets and paid up.

                My dumb ass bet Lemuix to beat Saunders lol.

                Figured in Canada and with Lemuix being the harder hitter the judges would like that..

                Wow! Was I wrong...
                Cool... my biggest bet was 2 dollars to my uncle, mauricio(rip) it was Sanchez vs lil red Lopez. I win he paid.

                he recently died and I gotta go seal with family bull chit.


                About my uncle mauricio, he loved boxing... I miss him bad...

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                  Originally posted by Zaroku View Post

                  Cool... my biggest bet was 2 dollars to my uncle, mauricio(rip) it was Sanchez vs lil red Lopez. I win he paid.

                  he recently died and I gotta go seal with family bull chit.


                  About my uncle mauricio, he loved boxing... I miss him bad...
                  Sorry to hear that!

                  My biggest bet was when I put a few grand on Oscar to beat Mosley2.... I lost but years later Mosley admitted he was juicing. That hurts bad to this day. To know I was cheated...
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                    Figured no WAY does Oscar lose twice. And in Vegas.

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                      Originally posted by OldTerry View Post
                      Whether or not he is guilty is pretty much a matter of opinion. The prosecution's witnesses and version of the facts have been shown to be fallible as the defense calls its' own experts and cross examines the state's witnesses. I believe because emotion is running so high on this case that Chauvin more or less has the cards stacked against him as far as the verdict. Personally I believe there is reasonable doubt as defined by law but then again I'm simply an imperfect man with an opinion.
                      You're obviously not watching the same trial that I am. The defense has shown absolutely nothing that would make the prosecution's case "fallible" If anything it's the opposite. The Doctor's and everyone on the police force including the chief has testified against Chauvin.


                      I was asking for your opinion on whether you thought Chauvin was innocent. Apparently you do so I'll leave it at that.
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