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    Conflicting Advice

    Just a general question

    How do you guys manage to move forward with so much conflicting advice around?

    I'm assuming the majority of the people posting here are both nerding it up online for information and working hard in the gym

    Mainly focusing on technique, I have recently been studying Kenny Weldon's DVD series 'Becoming a better boxer'

    I really do enjoy his way of explaining things (although I know some people would never agree with it) and it makes a lot more sense to me about sticking to fundamentals and persevering to get them correct.

    After trying some of the things, I feel it is comfortable, logical and solid way to practise (the weight over the back foot etc)

    BUT

    When it comes to working at it in certain gyms, I get told the complete opposite, maybe 3 three different ways of fighting from 3 different trainers, it seems there is no unified way of boxing, everyone seems to have a different opinion

    I feel confident one minute about making progress then full of doubt when someone tells me I should have most of my weight over front foot, which completely obliterates the foundation of how I'm learning to fight, and I know for a fact, some trainers don't like to be asked to explain themselves they just want you to shut up and do it.

    Maybe things were easier before the internet when the only advice you had was from the gym you were going to rather than a million boxing 'experts'

    Ps

    I also have the Chris Getz series and he teaches a completely different way to Weldon again

    To me Weldon's way is smooth, fluid and logical, Getz is very stiff and mechanical,

    Just my opinion

    I'd be interested to hear about anyone's experiences with conflicting information regarding boxing

    #2
    You can't trust people online whatsoever...period. I only ask other people online for advice on what they see me doing wrong such as if I leave myself open when throwing a certain punch. I never ask how to do things such as throwing a certain punch, shifting weight, movement, defense, etc. Technical stuff. One time someone tried to say that before every punch I throw I turn my elbow so its 90 degrees with my body then arm punch without moving anything else other than my arm....It's funny seeing all the crazy sht people come up with just to throw you off.

    Whenever I have a technical problem I look at Jack Dempsey's Champioship Fighting and watch tape of fighters who were well polished all around like Sugar Ray Robinson, Joe Louis, etc.

    You have to be able to weed out the bullsht.

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      #3
      The correct advice is the one that works for you. The difference in styles and approaches is what makes the sport beautiful. If Floyd was trained to be a brawler, would he have come as far as he has? If Golovkin was taught to be a strict counterpuncher would he be on the world stage? Don't worry about what is "right" or "wrong". Try different things and see which suits you best.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Mr.DagoWop View Post
        You can't trust people online whatsoever...period. I only ask other people online for advice on what they see me doing wrong such as if I leave myself open when throwing a certain punch. I never ask how to do things such as throwing a certain punch, shifting weight, movement, defense, etc. Technical stuff. One time someone tried to say that before every punch I throw I turn my elbow so its 90 degrees with my body then arm punch without moving anything else other than my arm....It's funny seeing all the crazy sht people come up with just to throw you off.

        Whenever I have a technical problem I look at Jack Dempsey's Champioship Fighting and watch tape of fighters who were well polished all around like Sugar Ray Robinson, Joe Louis, etc.

        You have to be able to weed out the bullsht.
        Thanks man, I wasn't so much talking about taking advice from people on forums, but the point does stand, I meant more about tutorial and technique videos, I have read Jack Dempsey's book cover to cover. A great read

        Originally posted by Redd Foxx View Post
        The correct advice is the one that works for you. The difference in styles and approaches is what makes the sport beautiful. If Floyd was trained to be a brawler, would he have come as far as he has? If Golovkin was taught to be a strict counterpuncher would he be on the world stage? Don't worry about what is "right" or "wrong". Try different things and see which suits you best.
        Great reply thanks Redd Foxx, makes a lot of sense, just hope trainers dont try to beat the natural style out of me

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          #5
          Originally posted by Baptist View Post

          Great reply thanks Redd Foxx, makes a lot of sense, just hope trainers dont try to beat the natural style out of me
          When you commit to a trainer, forget your "natural style" because questioning your trainer will only limit your success. You can always, always go back to your old ways if they truly work. A trainer finds the flaws that you are unaware of. That's what they do. So, if they correct you, just go with it and learn. Even if the specific method doesn't suit you in the long run, you're going to get some education and perspective that will stick with you. Reflexes, instinct, speed, etc are "natural". Form and technique are not natural and it's something EVERYONE has to learn.
          All the best to you.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Redd Foxx View Post
            When you commit to a trainer, forget your "natural style" because questioning your trainer will only limit your success. You can always, always go back to your old ways if they truly work. A trainer finds the flaws that you are unaware of. That's what they do. So, if they correct you, just go with it and learn. Even if the specific method doesn't suit you in the long run, you're going to get some education and perspective that will stick with you. Reflexes, instinct, speed, etc are "natural". Form and technique are not natural and it's something EVERYONE has to learn.
            All the best to you.
            I have tried already putting this into practise today, I wasn't really corrected but I had a few suggestions thrown at me which made a lot of sense!

            I am trying to be water, as Bruce Lee would suggest. Nutter

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              #7
              Originally posted by Baptist View Post
              Just a general question

              How do you guys manage to move forward with so much conflicting advice around?

              I'm assuming the majority of the people posting here are both nerding it up online for information and working hard in the gym

              Mainly focusing on technique, I have recently been studying Kenny Weldon's DVD series 'Becoming a better boxer'

              I really do enjoy his way of explaining things (although I know some people would never agree with it) and it makes a lot more sense to me about sticking to fundamentals and persevering to get them correct.

              After trying some of the things, I feel it is comfortable, logical and solid way to practise (the weight over the back foot etc)

              BUT

              When it comes to working at it in certain gyms, I get told the complete opposite, maybe 3 three different ways of fighting from 3 different trainers, it seems there is no unified way of boxing, everyone seems to have a different opinion

              I feel confident one minute about making progress then full of doubt when someone tells me I should have most of my weight over front foot, which completely obliterates the foundation of how I'm learning to fight, and I know for a fact, some trainers don't like to be asked to explain themselves they just want you to shut up and do it.

              Maybe things were easier before the internet when the only advice you had was from the gym you were going to rather than a million boxing 'experts'

              Ps

              I also have the Chris Getz series and he teaches a completely different way to Weldon again

              To me Weldon's way is smooth, fluid and logical, Getz is very stiff and mechanical,

              Just my opinion

              I'd be interested to hear about anyone's experiences with conflicting information regarding boxing
              I'm not sure if I want to give you the answer or not.....
              If I do you will keep asking, If I don't will still ask...

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                #8
                Some questions you can ask yourself: What type of success have those you have chosen to train you have? Have they trained any bigger names? How far have their other pupils gone in the sport? Do they personally know any of the mainstream trainers out there? My point is that some trainers know their craft, while other only think they know.

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                  #9
                  Keep your core. Everyone has something to teach and that's fine and how it should be, just don't let them completely redefine you.

                  There's a difference between adding to a wealth of personal knowledge and constantly resetting. If you are constantly resetting, you will not progress. If you like, you can find a middle ground between two conflicting opinions. One says front weighted, one says back weighted? Go balanced stance, which is what I suggest anyway.

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                    #10
                    The best advice is what works for you. Whatever you learn and use in the ring that works, stick with it and stick with that coach. Some coaches are tailor made for certain fighters.

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