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    #21
    Originally posted by sukhenkoy View Post
    I do about 400-500 pushups a day, but I do them in sets of 125. Between each set of pushups I do different ab exercises, and, altogether, all the sets take me about 1 hour to 1 hour and 20 minutes. I guess I just haven't done enough to be able to crank out 1000 in an hour yet.
    You are taking a bit too long on the sets. It shouldn't take that long to be honest, I think you need to slowly speed up. You are on the right track though, and you can build it up. Trust me it is easier than you think, but still hard for bums. You don't seem to be a bum like John terry doingthat much so keep plugging away at it. People who think it is out of reach are dumb. Alot has been acheived in the pro gyms which you may not be privy to. Even a journeyman in the stable did around 600 per day.

    Joe Calslappy does 250 ONE ARM push ups in a three minute round. No prizes for guessing he does 4 round of that. Do the maths on the minutes. I do mine in around 20 minutes.

    To be honest this thread was not about shawn people. He is a joke. All I am saying is don't be fooled by bums like him with flabby arms and no defined shoulders. it is obvious they do not put in the work required to even be a top amateur. I don't know what boxing means to you but for me it is a pursuit of excellence. That means I want to be as good as possible and will train like people who have been there. That means I will do what top am's and pro's do.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Rafael Benitez View Post
      You are taking a bit too long on the sets. It shouldn't take that long to be honest, I think you need to slowly speed up. You are on the right track though, and you can build it up. Trust me it is easier than you think, but still hard for bums. You don't seem to be a bum like John terry doingthat much so keep plugging away at it. People who think it is out of reach are dumb. Alot has been acheived in the pro gyms which you may not be privy to. Even a journeyman in the stable did around 600 per day.

      Joe Calslappy does 250 ONE ARM push ups in a three minute round. No prizes for guessing he does 4 round of that. Do the maths on the minutes. I do mine in around 20 minutes.

      To be honest this thread was not about shawn people. He is a joke. All I am saying is don't be fooled by bums like him with flabby arms and no defined shoulders. it is obvious they do not put in the work required to even be a top amateur. I don't know what boxing means to you but for me it is a pursuit of excellence. That means I want to be as good as possible and will train like people who have been there. That means I will do what top am's and pro's do.
      Part of the reason I take long on the sets is also because I do ab exercises in between each set of pushups. So, for a set of 125 pushups, I divide that set into 5 sets of 25 pushups, and, in between each set of 25, I do at least a minute of ab exercises. I also do all of these pushups on either my knuckles or on pushup handles that lift you off the floor, to make things difficult.

      Thanks for the advice. The John Terry comment was uncalled for though

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        #23
        To be fair, there's nothing wrong with Shawn's arms and shoulders. Frankie Gavin is less defined and he can hold his own, to put it mildly.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Rafael Benitez View Post
          Please people don't do it! I have a qualification in sports science from Halton College and Liverpool FC as well as EABA coach qualification. Apart from the fact that his videos are ****e, people like shawn should not be consulted for advice. That is the one problem with these forums: pseudo experts. Although I would not say my advice is the gospel, people need to realise that different things do work for different people but you also do get baseless bull**** advice.

          In boxing there are always more than one way to do things. However, experience usually counts for something and usually is the way to go. The proof is in the pudding. So when people post on here, it is a good idea to get the lowdown on who they are or what their source of info is before following it. It doesn't affect my career at end of day, but it is not nice to see gulluble noobs following **** who have saggy undefined arms and post videos with no speed, power, techinique. Like I said before, the proof is in the pudding. If they look like a tit in the gym, then they probably are talking ****e. If they can't box in first place then what would they know about it/

          The main issue in general is about information and it's source. I think more people need to reference or explain in detail where their theory comes from, etc. Even if it is not scientific knowledge then maybe something on how it has been applied practically. Discuss.
          You're a Liverpool fan so you're obviously right

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            #25
            Originally posted by sukhenkoy View Post
            Part of the reason I take long on the sets is also because I do ab exercises in between each set of pushups. So, for a set of 125 pushups, I divide that set into 5 sets of 25 pushups, and, in between each set of 25, I do at least a minute of ab exercises. I also do all of these pushups on either my knuckles or on pushup handles that lift you off the floor, to make things difficult.

            Thanks for the advice. The John Terry comment was uncalled for though
            It was not! He ****ing ruined my summer the tit, why couldn't he just let Kalou go first!

            Anyway with your routine, that is another thing you are doing right. i do the same thing. One set on chest, then abs, then legs. If you carry on like that then it will be easier to do more and you will get fitter quicker. In my experience it makes it much more easier to build up by doing what you do rather than try doing 1000 off in one go! That would be crazy, and incredibly boring too!

            Originally posted by PunchDrunk View Post
            To be fair, there's nothing wrong with Shawn's arms and shoulders. Frankie Gavin is less defined and he can hold his own, to put it mildly.
            He isn't. Well shawn is ill so I think we should cut him some slack. He has been beeding out of his arse where he talks from too. No surprises there. Could be the reason why his video's are so ****. I don't think he should train with an illness or talk **** either.

            Originally posted by The Raging Bull View Post
            You're a Liverpool fan so you're obviously right
            YNWA! Love your sig!

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              #26
              Just read your advice on weights. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black...

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                #27
                Originally posted by PunchDrunk View Post
                Just read your advice on weights. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black...
                Not really. I explained I made a mistake and meant heavy weights which is what people like Fatton and others do. They end up stiff and just like bums. Light weights is a different matter entirely. I assumed people were talking about heavy weights and not conitioning which is similar to calisthenics.

                Well I know what it must look like! My bad!

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Rafael Benitez View Post
                  Not really. I explained I made a mistake and meant heavy weights which is what people like Fatton and others do. They end up stiff and just like bums. Light weights is a different matter entirely. I assumed people were talking about heavy weights and not conitioning which is similar to calisthenics.

                  Well I know what it must look like! My bad!
                  I'm talking about the same **** you just said. Heavy weights are for strength and explosiveness. I've seen Hatton's weights regime, and his is more like a bodybuilders, which means more reps, which in turn means less weight.

                  You don't know what you're talking about on this subject.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by PunchDrunk View Post
                    I'm talking about the same **** you just said. Heavy weights are for strength and explosiveness. I've seen Hatton's weights regime, and his is more like a bodybuilders, which means more reps, which in turn means less weight.

                    You don't know what you're talking about on this subject. All my arrogant and insecure comments are in bold
                    I've seen him with my eyes doing the odd set of heavy reps too. STFU! In any case whatever he does I am glad you agree it is all about heavy reps and not heavy weights. The best way really is to move your own bodyweight through space and it will build more functional explosive strenght. In other wors do chin ups, dips and press ups. Even if you want to buil muscles you will have more fucntional strenght by doing them and adding weight via a dipping belt. The movements of calisthenics and wight assisted calisthenics gives you more explosive energy. (Reference:spartanhealth.com)

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Rafael Benitez View Post
                      I've seen him with my eyes doing the odd set of heavy reps too. STFU! In any case whatever he does I am glad you agree it is all about heavy reps and not heavy weights. The best way really is to move your own bodyweight through space and it will build more functional explosive strenght. In other wors do chin ups, dips and press ups. Even if you want to buil muscles you will have more fucntional strenght by doing them and adding weight via a dipping belt. The movements of calisthenics and wight assisted calisthenics gives you more explosive energy. (Reference:spartanhealth.com)
                      Haha, you're grapsing for straws here! Heavy reps? Never used that term, because, obviously, it is bull****. if you can do less reps, it is because the resistance is higher, which in turn means more weight within the same exercise. If you're gonna start talking "functionality" without even knowing the basics of everything else, you're opening a whole new can of worms. The most controversial one too, because carry over is next impossible to quantify, so there's no real evidence, just matter of opinion, to the point of religiousness. Who's to say dips are more "functional" than bench pressing? The bare fact that the resistance you push through in dips is your own bodyweight means nothing in terms of carry over to a punch. I would argue that the best carry over exercise for that would be a unilateral pressing movement in the same plan as the punch. A dip is neither unilateral nor in the same plane (hint; you'll need some very small opponents if you're gonna hit them with the movement you do in a dip).
                      This is all besides the point though, because functionality is vastly overrated, or at least misinterpreted by most people. Resistance training (whether it is BW or weights doesn't matter) should make you stronger, since there are better ways to train verything else.

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