Andre Ward salty assphook with Canelo

[Vasyl’s dad]

How was the Super Six overrated? It had every elite super middleweight in it except Lucian Bute and Joe Calzaghe was basically done at that point. Besides that, it was a round robin format so everyone fought each other and no one received the benefit of advancing due to a favorable matchup.

I will give you the first Kovalev matchup (I had it 114-113 Kovalev but it was close enough to go either way).

As for Bute, he had his shot at the elite against Carl Froch and Froch destroyed him. If Bute had won, then I imagine that Ward-Bute might have happened. The fight would have definitely happened if Bute had been in the Super Six because it was a round robin format.

Because those fighters were not very good to begin with. Just because they were the best of that particular division doesnt mean they were great overall. People at the time didnt care for 168 because it had no standouts. Ward wins the tourny and suddenly everyone acts like those were some dangerous fights.

[Vasyl’s dad]

He lost to Joe and he is also younger than Joe. Joe was retief before the super 6 even happened and was a light heavy by 2006-07,

The super 6 started in 09 and calzaghe was almost 40...again not the same era and Kessler was one if not the oldest and experienced of the super 6 entrants

Come on man keep up

And it was still a weak division.

[QueensburyRules]

Kessler was a shady decision...Kov 1 and 2 were shady decisions...Froch was not, clean win...Dawson a shady situation...I mean he has 1 clear non-controversial win man, 7-5 on my card over Froch...what am I supposed to get excited about lol.

Bika and Barrera were scored like 11-1 and they were either way type of fights...if you say otherwise I will first assume that you didn't actually watch those fights...I actually did watch them unlike I would say about at least half of Ward's fans that I've spoken to.

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[emceetns]

Why did Ward say the winner of the Super 6 should fight Bute...and then when Ward won, he said Bute needed to fight someone else before he fought Ward?

And anyone saying the Kov-Ward 1 fight was really a close fight...disgusting.

I imagine Ward could have fought Bute, but then again the top guys at 168 had been in the tournament fighting each other for two years while Bute was on the outside looking in.

I think Ward felt like Bute needed to prove himself at the elite level by fighting at least one guy from the Super Six after it was over. Do I agree? Not necessarily but I do understand the logic.

So Bute gets his shot against the runner-up and here is the tally for the Boxingscene staff predictions (courtesy of Google)

Total picks: Lucian Bute 5, Carl Froch 4, Undecided 1

http://krikya360.com/boxingsc...l-froch--53294

It was a 50-50 fight going in and Bute got wiped out, and that actually validated Ward's position on fighting Bute because he lost badly as soon as he fought someone elite.

[Curt Henning]

Because those fighters were not very good to begin with. Just because they were the best of that particular division doesnt mean they were great overall. People at the time didnt care for 168 because it had no standouts. Ward wins the tourny and suddenly everyone acts like those were some dangerous fights.

andre ward was an olympic gold medalist....he was also had the longest odds to win that tournament.....

but i guess the division just stunk lol

[joseph5620]

Ward hates it that his top win was a walk in the park for a much smaller canelo.

It's amazing when people that supposedly follow boxing are this ******. If you were intelligent enough to put things into context you would realize the Kovalev Ward fought was a far different version than the one Canelo fought.

[Clegg]

Ward is right. Plus, while Canelo deserves credit for facing Lara, that was so many years ago it's not proof of what his current mindset is

[therealpugilist]

Kessler was a shady decision...Kov 1 and 2 were shady decisions...Froch was not, clean win...Dawson a shady situation...I mean he has 1 clear non-controversial win man, 7-5 on my card over Froch...what am I supposed to get excited about lol.

Bika and Barrera were scored like 11-1 and they were either way type of fights...if you say otherwise I will first assume that you didn't actually watch those fights...I actually did watch them unlike I would say about at least half of Ward's fans that I've spoken to.

kovalev got rocked and stopped and didnt complain about the stoppage nothing shady at all

dude....bika and barrera clearly lost...did you even watch the fights, judges have crap cards all the time but you gotta be blind to think either won


agenda clear...im done moving on

[Boxing_1013]

kovalev got rocked and stopped and didnt complain about the stoppage nothing shady at all

dude....bika and barrera clearly lost...did you even watch the fights, judges have crap cards all the time but you gotta be blind to think either won


agenda clear...im done moving on

yes man your agenda is clear as day...it is obvious when you read a group of your posts...project all you want man.

Yeah Ward got warned earlier in the fight for low blows...and then pretty clearly went low after that...there were certainly some on the border to where after getting warned, you would think a guy may get warned again or a point off, as a couple certainly strayed low after the warning.

And then the fight literally ended with 2 straight low shots...no way should a fight end like that...to act like that is a legit ending and defend it is complete bullsh.it.

How did you score those Bika-Barrera fights? I had them both about even...no real issue with a narrow Ward win in either one but could see a draw in each one as well.

And don't take it from me...take it from the announcer in Barrera-Ward who after a few rounds said 'man it takes a better man than me to score these rounds'...and basically all the rounds except a few rounds were like that.

And don't take it from me on Bika-Ward...take it from other people, who, like me, actually watched the fight.

"A majority of observers had the fight a lot closer in terms of rounds scored to each fighter than what the judges had."



Since I know you haven't watched those 2 fights in total...go ahead and give them a view and then try and really say Ward dominated or clearly won those fights.

When you fight at home and get 2 10-2 cards, and a 12-0 card in a very tight close fight, I just don't think that is really something to hype up man...there are a lot of other guys out there who you could champion who were legit and really proved it...didn't play it safe at home and get protection.

[Boxing_1013]

I imagine Ward could have fought Bute, but then again the top guys at 168 had been in the tournament fighting each other for two years while Bute was on the outside looking in.

I think Ward felt like Bute needed to prove himself at the elite level by fighting at least one guy from the Super Six after it was over. Do I agree? Not necessarily but I do understand the logic.

So Bute gets his shot against the runner-up and here is the tally for the Boxingscene staff predictions (courtesy of Google)

Total picks: Lucian Bute 5, Carl Froch 4, Undecided 1

http://krikya360.com/boxingsc...l-froch--53294

It was a 50-50 fight going in and Bute got wiped out, and that actually validated Ward's position on fighting Bute because he lost badly as soon as he fought someone elite.

Hold on...stop the spinning please..please just stop it.

I am not arguing about whether Ward would have won...that isn't the point...the point is in how can you defend a man on this point -

He said - 'The winner of this tourney should fight Bute'...then 2 fights later, he is the winner...and he says Bute hasn't fought anyone and doesn't deserve the fight!!!

That is bullsh.it man...like Ward or not, how can you try and defend that.

Like you don't have to defend everything about a guy lol...just say 'yeah that was some bullsh.it' and move on.

Btw - Bute fought Glen Johnson 10 days before Froch fought Ward in the final...and Glen lost to Froch in the semis of the Super 6!!!