casual fans need to learn how to score a fight.....

[kafkod]

Yeah GGG had two black eyes, a nasty cut and went to the ER while Canelo didn’t even look bad at all. He went clubbing and took pics with fans.

Fighter B wins that round, here is why....

you think that defense is not a factor unless both fighters appear to land the same number of clean punches..... which is totally incorrect

Ok, so you don't know how to score a boxing match!

The reason why "clean, hard punches landed" is at the top of of the scoring criteria is because it supersedes the criteria listed below it.

They only become factors if the number of clean, hard punches landed appears to be the same for both fighters.

Forget the compubox terminology which labels every punch which isn't a jab a "power punch". The only way to objectively assess the power of a punch is to observe the effect it has on the opponent.

Jabs, hooks, crosses, whatever, should all be scored equally if they land cleanly and have the same effect on the fighter taking them.

Facial damage inflicted is not a scoring criteria.

And don't bother responding to this with more crap about GGG and Canelo, because I'm not even reading any of that stuff from you,

Stick to the point of the discussion.

[kafkod]

Thanks for the analysis but you are wrong. The fighter that lands the most punches in that example given clearly won the round. When a fighter gets doubled up in clean landed punches there is no justification for him winning the round.

Thank you. That is absolutely correct.

Clean punches landed supersedes the other criteria. They should only be used if the number of clean punches landed is judged to be equal for both fighters.

[kafkod]

LMFAO!! Exactly. Man ggg had two black eyes and went to the ER. Canelo went clubbing

Duh ... one guy gets a black eye, the other guy gets a cut eye.

Duh .. who won that round?

[kafkod]

One guy is Canelo Alvarez, the other guy is Golovkin.

Who won that round?

[Chrismart]

A thread on correct fight scoring becomes kind of obsolete when facial damage, cuts and bruising starts being talked up as a criteria. Or even as a example of a criteria met.

[Boxing_1013]

this is professional boxing, not rock-em-sock-em robots

before you completely eliminate 3-of-the-4 official scoring criteria (LMAO)..... please realize that we are not interested in butchering the sweet science, just to make it easier for casual-fans to score a fight

sorry..... but, defence and ring generalship are part of this game, whether you like it or not..... and ineffective aggression even gets rock-em-sock-em robots into trouble

just try harder

go watch that video..... 1000x

listen, jokes aside..... boxing caters for everyone, simply watch lower-level fights..... fights that are not that technical or difficult to judge

Defense, ring generalship, and effective aggression all help to tell the story and get a guy into position - and that story and position is landing punches on the opponent. Nothing else matters.

It seems unfortunately that some on here want to change the rules of the sport in efforts to have their man win a fight they didn't win...not a huge deal just a good example that for some on here they have their self-interests so tied up in/against some fighters, that they have a vested interest in finding ways to score it for/against certain guys. I think some on here are actually blind to their biases and don't score it badly intentionally.

From what I've seen, anyone analyzing the GGG Canelo fights who scores those for Canelo almost universally dismisses the work GGG did with his jab. Which is a great scoring punch almost every time GGG lands, which is very often.

To not score and outright dismiss nd even mock the jab for GGG shows a lot of people on here aren't really keeping it real here...you would then also have to do that for every fight you watch if one was attempting to keep consistent criteria...and what crazy results that would bring lol. All of a sudden Floyd's fights for example would be scored completely differently.

To use those 2 fights as a good litmus test....Canelo fought well in parts of each fight...he was in quite a few rounds...but in both fights, round in and round out he was getting outworked and GGG had quite a few rounds in each fight where he ran away with the round, on activity and punch damage.

The reasoning many seem to use to justify a win for Canelo in those fights generally has nothing really to do with scoring a boxing match...and also changes from fight 1 to fight 2...they are unfortunately searching for any reason for why their guy won.

Again the only thing that matters is who is landing more and better punches. If we all let that be our guide in scoring fights we would get a lot better cards...and would be able to almost universally agree on 95% of fight decisions...95% of the time there is only one winner.

Peace bro be well

[Boxing_1013]

A thread on correct fight scoring becomes kind of obsolete when facial damage, cuts and bruising starts being talked up as a criteria. Or even as a example of a criteria met.

Well said Chris...good post.

I would love if your post could serve as a mirror for some on here...but unfortunately I feel it will go overlooked by those who most need to see it.

[TonyGe]

when the jab is not clean/hard/effective

look, right here in the rules..... the, " official " rules....

* clean hard punching
* effective aggression
* defence
* ring generalship

Tony Baloney..... up until a few days ago, you VEHEMENTLY insisted that the ONLY criteria for scoring a boxing match was adding up the landed punches..... you said that many times, on many threads

the "how to score a boxing match for beginners" video in this thread..... I LITERALLY found that video on youtube to prove you wrong on the other thread LMAO

you are actually the cause of this thread, you muppet

I think you are overreacting..

[Shadoww702]

Ok, so you don't know how to score a boxing match!

The reason why "clean, hard punches landed" is at the top of of the scoring criteria is because it supersedes the criteria listed below it.

They only become factors if the number of clean, hard punches landed appears to be the same for both fighters.

Forget the compubox terminology which labels every punch which isn't a jab a "power punch". The only way to objectively assess the power of a punch is to observe the effect it has on the opponent.

Jabs, hooks, crosses, whatever, should all be scored equally if they land cleanly and have the same effect on the fighter taking them.

Facial damage inflicted is not a scoring criteria.

And don't bother responding to this with more crap about GGG and Canelo, because I'm not even reading any of that stuff from you,

Stick to the point of the discussion.

The original point was guys like you SCREAMING robbery!

Why couldn’t someone give Canelo rounds 1-3 and 10-12 in the 1st fight?? Or rounds 1-5 and 12 in the 2nd fight???

I notice every CLOSE round you gifted GGG. And gave Canelo ZERO close rounds. That to me shows how BIASED you are.

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I feel like this is an attack on the LGBT community