Arum is panicking because Crawford/Khan PPV flopped

[killakali]

Have no idea what to expect in that one, which is why I'm so interested in the fight. If you're convinced it's a blow out, you should bet your life savings and show us proof of your wager.




ESPN has dominated for decades and decades, long before FS1 existed. ESPN has the rights to the NFL, NBA, etc and FS1 doesn't. Pretty simple.




Pretty ****** comment. The A-side of the main event is American, which you somehow ignored. No, I'm not skipping Saturday's Showtime card. I like Easter a lot and always make sure to watch him. Even when he fought on Bounce, I got the old rabbit ears out of storage so I could see it.




I'll be at Disney World all day with my girlfriend, but I'll make sure to be home in time for the main event so I can see the Easter fight.

why would u watch that card yet call the “Ito fight” a foreign fight and not mention us marine Jamel herring is in the main event ? See the hypocrite that you are?

Showtimes triple header is 5 foreign fighters and 1 American. Just proves your a biased fraud.

Then you try to pass off Ito as a foreign fight he’ll even Hot Rod lives in NY even though he’s a “foreign” fighter just like Abner Mares who wasn’t born here yet lives here. I bet you watch his fights too.

This showtime card coming up is the most foreign card of the year lmao.

As for betting my life savings I Wilder who’s a 10-1 favorite why would I bet 1000 to win 100 on that bs fight?

[KTFOKING]

So if it sold 1000 ppvs and Crawford 500 that’s a blow out ? Lmao it’s double. Neither he big numbers and don’t be so quick to think it did that many more. Some are saying it’s equal to garcia vs Spence:

By G. Leon 24/04/2019
With Various Crawford-Khan PPV numbers swirling around, Arum says "don't believe everything you hear"
Insider circles are buzzing with varyying preliminary reports on the number of buys the Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan PPV generated. Depending on who you're talking to the fight could have done a dismal 200,000 on the high-end, but actually closer to 150,000 all the way up to the respectable Spence-Garcia range of 320,000-360,000. We reached out to Bob Arum and he told **********, "When a number is released it'll come from ESPN." Regarding the dismal numbers floating around Arum said, "don't believe everything you hear." Speaking from experience as the advisor to Jean Pascal here's a quick rundown of how PPV works. 75-80% of what the actual number will be known today or tomorrow at the latest and this is just for residential buys. The revenue that the commercial buys (sports bars) generated is already known, but never released to the press. The prices these establishments pay varies depending on their capacity, usually at an average of $800-$1000 per location. Now back to the residential buys, it coulld take 60-70 days for the precise final number of residential buys to be known, maybe more in the case of Crawford-Khan, a fight that was PPV on two continents.

Porter isn’t a great option anymore. He just lost to Ugas. Do u understand that?

Also how many ppv buys in the uk did Crawford do? That’s more revenue too.

Why did you post that article? What were you trying to show?

Porter is still a champion and almost losing to Ugas means exactly what? Ugas is not a bum and has been on a nice roll in the last two to three years. He's a bigger fight than Brook for Crawford.

How many buys do you think it did? 50k maybe? That fight didn't have big buzz in the UK. You put a PPV at 4 am then it better include a big name opponent like Mayweather or Pacquiao against a Brit or Fury or Joshua.

Lawd, now I hope you're not trying to argue that Crawford vs Khan generated more revenue than Spence vs Garcia lmao.

And doubling 500 to 1,000 isn't nearly the same as doubling 150-200k to 360k. Not even close.

Let me make it easier for you, in the next 18 months who's name gets bigger between Spence and Crawford?

[killakali]

Why did you post that article? What were you trying to show?

Porter is still a champion and almost losing to Ugas means exactly what? Ugas is not a bum and has been on a nice roll in the last two to three years. He's a bigger fight than Brook for Crawford.

How many buys do you think it did? 50k maybe? That fight didn't have big buzz in the UK. You put a PPV at 4 am then it better include a big name opponent like Mayweather or Pacquiao against a Brit or Fury or Joshua.

Lawd, now I hope you're not trying to argue that Crawford vs Khan generated more revenue than Spence vs Garcia lmao.

And doubling 500 to 1,000 isn't nearly the same as doubling 150-200k to 360k. Not even close.

Let me make it easier for you, in the next 18 months who's name gets bigger between Spence and Crawford?

depends who they fight and how they perform and how often they fight.

Didn’t t mention revenue but that article says Crawford May have done over 300k buys. Plus you got uk. If it did over 300k buys your whole theory is shot to sheet and you would just need to log off

[killakali]

Have no idea what to expect in that one, which is why I'm so interested in the fight. If you're convinced it's a blow out, you should bet your life savings and show us proof of your wager.




ESPN has dominated for decades and decades, long before FS1 existed. ESPN has the rights to the NFL, NBA, etc and FS1 doesn't. Pretty simple.




Pretty ****** comment. The A-side of the main event is American, which you somehow ignored. No, I'm not skipping Saturday's Showtime card. I like Easter a lot and always make sure to watch him. Even when he fought on Bounce, I got the old rabbit ears out of storage so I could see it.




I'll be at Disney World all day with my girlfriend, but I'll make sure to be home in time for the main event so I can see the Easter fight.

so why would Haymon put fights on fs1 that even though it’s in as many homes as espn almost no one watches? Isn’t that a disservice to his fighters. Some of these fs1 cards don’t even get 200k viewers. I mean fs1 almost makes showtime look like their ratings are good for Christ sake.

[N/A]

so why would Haymon put fights on fs1 that even though it’s in as many homes as espn almost no one watches?

Because Fox is paying a lot of money to have fights on Fox and FS1.

When Plant won the world title, a million people saw him on FS1. How many people are watching DAZN again?

[N/A]

why would u watch that card yet call the “Ito fight” a foreign fight and not mention us marine Jamel herring is in the main event ? See the hypocrite that you are?

I listed the A-side in every fight.

I don't care about Ito, I don't recognize the WBO, and I have no idea who Jamel Herring is. That card doesn't interest me at all. If it interests you, that's awesome. I hope you enjoy it.

[Motorcity Cobra]

mike Tyson was a different era. Back then boxing was more popular than now. Remember how many Tyson cards had Chavez and how many floyd cards had canelo or Leo Santa Cruz or Morales to help get more Latino buys ?

Floyd was smart though. You saw what happened when he fought berto. That’s why he skipped Devon Alexander Vernon Forrest Cory spinks paul Williams etc when they were in their primes and fought guys like Victor Ortiz and Robert guerrero. He needed that Latino market to sell.

Out of Floyd’s top 4 selling ppvs how many were vs black fighters ? That’s right ZERO. They were 2 Mexicans in a Canelo and Oscar, his Filipino rival who was the other ppv king of the era and a white guy who brought in all the ppv buys. How come none of his 2 mil plus ppv sales were vs black fighters? I will wait anxiously for your answer.

How do u feel about getting caught lying about Floyd “consistently hitting 1 million ppv buys?”

All of the top boxing 10 PPV's have involved black fighters. Only 3 have involved Mexican fighters.

So you're telling me Mexicans support black fighters more than Mexican fighters?

[KTFOKING]

depends who they fight and how they perform and how often they fight.

Didn’t t mention revenue but that article says Crawford May have done over 300k buys. Plus you got uk. If it did over 300k buys your whole theory is shot to sheet and you would just need to log off

That's why I said IF the initial rumors are true. But I'm willing to bet it didn't do 300k buys….Why? Hearn went out telling people it did 150k buys.

The reports will come out it did around 200k buys. Just sit back and see, while Iole will report it did around 180k buys. That's how this all works.

Depends who they fight right? Okay, so who do you see Crawford fighting in the next 18 months that will trump Spence's opponents?

Crawford turned pro in 2008 and is going to turn 32 in September. He's been at the high level since around 2013. At this point he is who he is. He's not all of a sudden going to become a much bigger name than he is. Not all of a sudden going to turn into a PPV star, that's easy to see.

[Bjl12]

My point is Spence's first PPV did a little less than Canelo's fight against Khan. And better than Canelo's fight against Lara, Angulo, & Smith.

Spencer is older than Canelo.

So Canelo has been putting up record PPV's since before Spencer was ever relevant...and he's hardly relevant today. Still.

[killakali]

Because Fox is paying a lot of money to have fights on Fox and FS1.

When Plant won the world title, a million people saw him on FS1. How many people are watching DAZN again?

you mean almost a million people. That fight card has proven to be an outlier. Even with that inflated number FS1 shows are averaging less than 400k viewers overall. We deal with just the facts here.