Comments Thread For: Dmitry Bivol is More Than Ready To Face Marcus Browne

[MDPopescu]

Yeah that's what I'm saying. It was corrupt as sh#t. Browne should have a loss on his record already

... it's only because of you that I just watched the Kalajdzic vs Browne fight...

... a "slick" Kalajdzic caught a basic southpaw Browne with a clean straight right in the 6th for the KD...

[Boxing Logic]

Why are you talking as if Marcus Browne called for an eliminator to be the WBA mandatory? lol

Fighters dont call for eliminators, the sanctioning bodies do. Browne is the WBA mandatory, so if the sanctioning body calls for the champ to face his mandatory this summer, but Browne doesn't want to be Bivol's mandatory he wants to fight Gvozdyk instead, then Browne should drop the WBA mandatory spot so someone who actually wants to fight the WBA champion can have the spot.

See what Im saying? Imagine if it was spring a few years ago, and Canelo-GGG was scheduled for September, then the rematch in their next fight let's say next march was already scheduled, but the WBC had a mandatory for GGG lined up so GGG said, "I want you to order the mandatory for this summer, so I can get it out of the way before Canelo so that I'm freed up to fight Canelo for big money my next few fights," but then the WBC mandatory, whoever it was, said "no no, I dont want to do it yet, I want to wait and do it in September," who is the WBC supposed to listen to? The champ wants to get his mandatory out of the way now, while the mandatory wants to wait until later on. In a case like that, who is the sanctioning body supposed to side with?

I'm saying, they should side with the champion in cases like that, or whichever side wants to do the mandatory first. If you're not ready to face the champion yet, then you shouldn't be mandatory to the champ. And I'm telling you that's the situation you're describing with Browne and the WBA, similar to what some believe is the situation with Yarde, Kovalev, and the WBO. The only difference is, you're saying Browne isn't straight ducking the champs, he just prefers to face Gvozdyk or it's a bigger money fight for him.

Well, I disagree that it's a bigger money fight, and I gave compelling reasons why it wouldn't be, but you ignored those and kept pushing bull**** since you have no answers to facts. But regardless of the money, it wouldn't change the fact that if you're right about Browne only wanting to fight Gvozdyk this year, not Bivol, then Browne should give up the WBA mandatory spot because you're saying he wont fight Bivol before fighting Gvozdyk, and then win or lose vs Gvozdyk, he won't be able to be Bivol's mandatory anymore. I guess maybe if that fight is a draw, it would be worth hanging onto, but that's not really fair to anyone else in the WBA rankings to reserve the #1 spot for the next year just in case your other title shot with another organization ends in the most unlikely outcome. But you probably think that's a great thing for boxing, as much insurance as possible for another protected PBC fighter.

Who will you hype up next if (in my opinion when) Browne loses to either of them? Will you start to embrace the Brits? If you're American and if you were one of the people saying "white Americans only root for GGG because they have no good white American boxers" years ago, like I saw a lot of fans of the same boxers and pushers of the same agendas I see you arguing for sometimes did, then that would be pretty funny if you turned into a big Yarde or Buatsi fan.

[DuckAdonis]

... it's only because of you that I just watched the Kalajdzic vs Browne fight...

... a "slick" Kalajdzic caught a basic southpaw Browne with a clean straight right in the 6th for the KD...

Yep. Kalajdzic is fighting Beterbiev next. Don't miss that fight, could be a good one!

[Scipio2009]

Bro if you're going to respond to me you need to read what I write. Hearn wants to make Bivol-Browne main event, Joe Smith Jr vs Callum Johnson co-main, for MSG in late summer. That card has a black American boxer, a white American boxer, a black New York boxer, a white New York boxer from another area, plus the Russian New York fanbase represented in Bivol, and the UK fans represented in Johnson only a 5 hour plane trip away.

You don't think that card sells as well as Browne-Gvozdyk? Probably way less Ukrainians in NY than Russians and neither ESPN or Showtime can get that key Joe Smith Jr-Johnson fight for the co-main either. I'll leave it at that short chunk so maybe you'll read it and we can actually engage in a real boxing conversation.



Bro it's April right now where Im at. That fight has not been announced, it is on neither of their boxrec's. And who the ***** wants to see Browne vs Pascal anyway? Only reason Bivol fought him is Joe Smith Jr pulled out of fighting Bivol for last fall, chose Beterbiev instead, then Beterbiev pulled out and Smith Jr fought Bivol this spring instead. And everyone ridiculed Bivol for fighting Pascal. Didn't Browne last fight in November? So for Pascal to happen, we're looking at least 8 weeks from announcement usually, so no earlier than June maybe even July, so you basically want Browne to go a full year between significant fights. No wonder PBC is a joke when its fans have such low expectations. I dont expect my favorite boxers to fight killers every 4 months, but every 6 to 9 months is certainly the expectation. One tough fight, one easy fight 3-4 months later, then another tough fight 3-4 months after that. 6 to 8 months, a tough fight. Browne's timeline is looking like 10 to 12 months minimum between meaningful matchups. That's not enough for any sport to sustain itself.

Bivol vs Browne, with Joe Smith Jr as the co-main does nowhere near the business that you think it does, especially with the big room at MSG 21000 (even the Hulu Theater at MSG, the small room, still seats 5500). Beyond that, what Brits are traveling anywhere for Callum Johnson? How many tickets did Bivol sell with Joe Smith Jr in the friggin main event in upstate NY (didn't sound like many people, and the lighting gimmick made it known that it wasn't that many people, and turning stone isn't a big building anyway). lol

Nassau seats a max of 14000, Gvozdyk-Browne is a real fight, and they'd have ESPN actually able to market a real fight, with real stories behind the fight for the puff pieces. Logic.

Marcus Browne fought Badou Jack in January, is supposed to fight Pascal this spring (eye a TV slot for the next big New York PBC card; ie possibly Wilder-Breazeale), and then the WBC mandatory is due by the end of the year (unless a unification happens). Three fights in a year, in case you missed that.

Not his fault that Bivol is stuck without a fight you want to see

[James Hunt]

Sounds like just another case of a foreign boxer trying to fight the best American boxer in his division, but that boxer being with Al Haymon, and Haymon going 'Hell nah I'm not risking my boxer losing to anyone outside of PBC. It might be best for my boxer to take their shot, but it ain't best for me.'

Bivol was mando to Badou Jack, a Haymon guy. Jack went the Stevenson route instead, refused to defend his belt. Then Jack got a draw, Gvozdyk got the next Stevenson shot, so Jack should have fought Bivol then. Bivol offered him the fight. But Jack wouldn't fight him then either. Went to fight a non-titlist, Browne, instead of the titlist, Bivol. A joke.

Then Browne dominated Jack like Im sure Haymon planned, so basically Jack was talked into throwing his career into the trash can just to help Al and Browne at the expense of his own career (Bivol would have been a better fight for him stylistically, and losing to a champ is not as bad as losing to someone that Hot Rod beat clearly), and now it sounds like Al won't let Browne fight Bivol either. This after Al did the same **** with Stevenson relative to Kovalev as well.

What is it with Al and the 175 division? It's not even the biggest money division (although it would be right now with the proper promotion).

Oh that's right, I forgot, Al does this **** in every single division he has a top 5 guy in. PBC stay ruining boxing as usual. PBC boxers are a joke. "I'm a free agent but I can only fight on certain networks. I'm my own boss but I can't make any decisions or even discuss boxing freely to the media without Al's permission. "I never ducked or dodged nobody" but I duck and dodge everybody outside of PBC who is better than me.

PBC is a joke. This would be the second Al Haymon WBA mandatory to Dmitry Bivol to duck the fight. The WBA and all sanctioning bodies need to simply stop putting Haymon fighters, or any non-serious fighters from any promotion like Anthony Yarde, as mandatories to A-level non-PBC champions because it's just a waste of time, Al never puts his guys in non-inhouse fights they'd be underdogs unless he has no choice.

You're absolutely spot on!

[Satir]

Browne might just need to survive against Gwozdyk or Bivol to win a title, you never know, but evereone understands he's not at the level of current lhw champs

[ironfriend]

Brown was under the radar a bit but he has arrived. Not only long and strong but gritty and the tools in the shed look sharp. I dont know what Bivol can do with him other than land the homerun but he cant throw caution to the wind.Brown got 16 homeruns himself.

[ironfriend]

Browne might just need to survive against Gwozdyk or Bivol to win a title, you never know, but evereone understands he's not at the level of current lhw champs

Speak for yourself

[ironfriend]

"then Browne dominated Jack like Im sure Haymon planned, so basically Jack was talked into throwing his career into the trash can just to help Al and Browne at the expense of his own career"

Either you're joking or you flat out delusional

[pillowfists98]

"then Browne dominated Jack like Im sure Haymon planned, so basically Jack was talked into throwing his career into the trash can just to help Al and Browne at the expense of his own career"

Either you're joking or you flat out delusional

nah its true. Jack got screwed by Haymon.