Funny that people would argue about this when it's pretty clear cut. Yes all the major, reputable orgs consider lineal status vacant in the hw division. But even if you just think about it for 2 seconds it doesn't make sense that Fury would still be considered lineal champ.
You can't stop fighting for two years, retire, give up your belts, and still be lineal champ just because you beat the man. Lineal status gets vacated in a situation like that. If Pianeta had beaten Fury would he be lineal champ right now? lol
Tyson beat Vlad and won all the belts. Whether you consider him lineal or not (since he's technically not), he still beat the man and he deserves respect for it.
Well several posters have tried to clear this up... One poster explained that the lineal is based on a claim at least partially, and that's true. Others explained that the lineal is based on beating the man and really being the first to do so, if we're honest.
Still others have explained that the idea of retirement is relative and that the idea of being a cheat xcetera is also secondary to the provisions of a lineal title holder. It's a very specific designation it's for the first guy to topple the King of the Hill. Fury was that guy and is back in the sport now.
People are trying to sanitize the title by putting Fury's situation under a microscope. It just doesn't work that way. And I don't know why other organizations are making claims about this title especially considering nobody thought about it until claim was made upon it.
You claim a title folks! Fans should be the ultimate arbitrators for who the lineal champ is. Because fans know, at least traditionally they knew, who the champ was and hence... Who beat the champ.
So ask yourself this question when Fury beat Klitschko, was Klitschko the man? Did Fury beat him? Is Fury fighting now? See how simple that is? You don't retire the lineal champ it just doesn't work that way.
UK fangirls are losing it over the thought that Deontay 'Bronze-Bomber' Wilder is achieving greatness and going in the history books . Wilder joins the greats that earned the honor to be called THE MAN, like : Lennox Lewis, George Foreman, Evander Holyfield, Larry Holmes, Muhammad Ali, Charles "Sonny" Liston, Floyd Patterson, Rocky Marciano, "Jersey" Joe Walcott, Ezzard Charles, Joe Louis...
I can imagine how NSB going to be when the casuals return to the forum next week!
This has to be the dumbest thread I've ever seen. You cannot be stripped of anything lineal. Do you know what lineal means you mark?
lin·e·al
/ˈlinēəl/
adjective
1.
in a direct line of descent or ancestry.
"a lineal descendant"
Hahahaha. You cannot be stripped of lineage. Moron.
Lineal champs have been stripped/vacated throughout history. Is Lewis still lineal? Why was Mayweather stripped of lineal when he retired for a couple of years.
Putting an old fighter as your pic doesn't make you knowledgeable, you're proof of that.
This has to be the dumbest thread I've ever seen. You cannot be stripped of anything lineal. Do you know what lineal means you mark?
lin·e·al
/ˈlinēəl/
adjective
1.
in a direct line of descent or ancestry.
"a lineal descendant"
Hahahaha. You cannot be stripped of lineage. Moron.
True, fury is lineal. You want to be lineal then fight fury and beat him is that too much to ask.?
When fury has beat wlad, all Josh was saying is ill be ready for Tyson soon.. Maybe in a year. I could give fury a good fight now, but if i wait a year get some more experience then in a year it will be easy?
So beat fury then you will be. Wouldn't Josh get more satisfaction that way?
Yes, it's the principole. Josh didn't want to fight fury. Didn't want wilder yet or was dithering too much. Fury stepped up. If people don't accept fury as lineal you don't have morals, and code of honour
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