Personally he shouldn't fight either fighter. He would lose to either of them, he is too old, too wartorn. They would be getting him at the right age, right skill level etc I really don't like to see that happen to great fighters, he can go out now as retire not getting beaten up by these hungry younger guys. But i know he would get in the ring with one of them, it happened with Ray Leonard against Camacho, Chavez against De la hoya, De la hoya against Pac himself etc.
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Spence-Crawford TOO BIG for Pacquiao?
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Originally posted by WesternChamp View Postlets see, crawford came into a 135 fight against midget gamboa at 152. that's almost a 20lbs increase. and this was years ago. so seeing how TC is fighting at 147 now, i wont be surprise if he comes into the ring at 160-168. i dont think he's anywhere near 180 like suggested but 160-168, you cant argue this.
This is just BS. It's always pac fans that come up with these huge weight disparities when discussing potential opponents so they have an excuse when he loses.
Originally posted by WesternChamp View Postfinally spence will finally under go vada testing LOL!! let's get this fight signed!
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Originally posted by WesternChamp View Postfinally spence will finally under go vada testing LOL!! let's get this fight signed!
Um yeah, sit this one out slugger. Speaking of VADA testing, not like Manny has done it the last two fights either.
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Originally posted by boliodogs View PostSpence and Crawford are excellent, possible great prime welterweights. As great as Pacquiao was he was and is too small and light for welterweight. He is so good that he still wins at welterweight most of the time. I doubt the prime Pacquiao would destroy Spence and Crawford of today. They might beat him. As for Pac having a 40 to 50 percent chance of beating them now the odds makers would not agree with you on that. Pacquiao would be a big underdog against either of them today.
These two are the goods and it's in Pacman's best interest to steer clear.
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I'd favor peak Pacquiao over both, but it is far from a lock he would have beaten them, let alone destroy them. Crawford style wise was always going to be a problem. Spence is a trust boxer/puncher that will grind you out. Pacquiao's speed would have given him fits, but Margarito almost folded him to the body and Spence right now is a lot fresher than that version of Margarito.
But this Pacman against the two lions? Yeah, steer away from them, it won't end well. Go after Danny Garcia if he beats Porter, or Amir Khan or fighters like that. Those that won't have the size advantage on you or won't impose their will on you.
Crawford just got to WW, but he's naturally bigger than Pacman. He has that type of build where he could eventually go up to LMW.
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Originally posted by sargo View PostPacquiao is supposed to lose to both. Let's see it though.
Pacquiao was given the chance to rise to superstardom by Dela Hoya, et al. Now it is his turn to give the young ones that chance.
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostGlad you see it that way. Let's put Manny in with Crawford and Spence with VADA testing and lets see how he does.
His best chance of success is either Khan or Loma, and he could lose both. Spence and Crawford? No way would they put him in with those two. Crawford maybe, since he was at 135 only a couple of years ago. Spence is 5'10" and walks around in the 170's. He would end Pac's career for sure.
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If he still had his legs I would say make the fight, people want these young guys to take scalps easily now. Both Floyd and Manny beat their way to those legendary scalps. They didn't fight a bunch of nobodies and then stepped in to claim thrones. I'll say it one last time, if people spent the same amount of time demanding Spence and Crawford beat the best in their generation class as they don talking about those guys fighting Floyd or Manny we'd have a different climate right now. Also as far as I am concerned Spece and Crawford while great talents haven't done jack***** worthy of praise besides win some belts. By the time both Manny and Floyd had their stage set to take on the king of the period in DLH they had a few future hall of famers on their resume and some hella impressive wins.
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I don't really have any interest is seeing him fight those guys. He'd be 40 when he steps in the ring with them, at this point it's not even a 'passing of the torch' moment anymore.
I want to see Spence and Crawford fight each other and unify. Not talk about letting it marinate and fighting a guy who's past his best by a number of years.
I think Manny would beat them in his prime for sure, but those days have gone. Crawford and Spence are both big, young and skilled P4P guys. Too much at this stage.
I'd like to see Pacquiao call it a day, I don't see that happening though. Khan in the UK would be good for Pacquiao. I still think he has enough about him to win that fight.
Loma? I don't know. I know Pacquiao is small and is known to eat well on the day of the weigh-in, but he's not been at 140 since the Hatton fight. While I think 140 is Loma's ceiling for sure.
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