Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Promoter Sends Counter-Offer Terms For Canelo PPV

[OnePunch]

Asking for the same deal Manny got when you not Manny and can't even get on HBO PPV is pricing yourself out. He can't even get fights in vegas and has to beg uk fighters. Lame delusional ggg fans. He's the BBB side and ducking. He just wants more wade mismatches ol 35 year old hype boy needs more bums to feast on.

what makes you think this is the end of the negotiations dumbass? Based on Loefflers comments, Oscar sent a flat-fee deal over. Loeffler countered with a 60-40 deal. Now Oscar will counter back with 75-25 or something else, and this will go on and on for the next 8 months. On what planet does the 1st offer for the biggest fight in the sport have to be accepted immediately without negotiating?

you people are something else......

[robertzimmerman]

They want no parts of Canelo. Ginger fills football stadiums like it's nothing. He's one half of the highest grossing ppv in the sports history

Dear lord.

He fills stadiums in Mexico.

Great.

Give GG 10 dollars then, right?

[OnePunch]

Loeffler says it himself. "A flat fee for a fight is usually given to a fighter or contender who's clearly the "B" side."


Golovkin IS clearly the B side.

so then you admit that Oscar sent a flat-fee offer?

good. now thats settled

[icha]

I'm a fan of both guys and I believe both are Top 10 pound for pound fighters.

However GGG'S team are out of there damn minds if they think this is a Pac Vs Mayweather situation.

GGG literally has done 1 pay per view that did 150K. Canelo has never done that low in Pay Per View buys. So if I'm Golden Boy I send a counter offer and say if you want a percentage you get 25% of the pie at best.

Fans, media, and fighters can talk all the $h!t they want to but the fact is Canelo puts A$$es in seats and people pay to watch him as well. While GGG puts A$$es in seats as well he has no successful pay per view track record. Until then he gets no more than 25% and that still might be way too generous on the part of Golden Boy.

In the history of this sport fighters make sacrifices to gain popularity and get the fights they want to further advance their careers. GGG and K2 need to come to the realization that they are going to have to do the same in order to get GGG to Superstar status.

BBB is special, he is already a superstar...

[bigdunny1]

Dear lord.

He fills stadiums in Mexico.

Great.

Give GG 10 dollars then, right?

10 dollars? They made an offer of 10m. He made 2m in the only HBO PPV he has ever been on. LMAO

[whoseyourdaddy]

Golovkin is clearly th B-side Loeffler you tard. Wanting a split similar to the 40% Pacquiao got.

Pricing themselves out. Golovkin is now ducking Canelo.

Exactly Mayweather made 70 mill vs Canelo, Ginger only made 13 mill roughly 10% even though he was a proven commodity (hence Mayweather trying to keep him in his undercard as a condition for their fight to be made) GGG makes 97K PPVs and demands 40% WHO IN THE HELL DO THEY THINK THEY ARE????

[robertzimmerman]

Why would they send a counter offer, just accept it n go 10mill, i dont think hes ever gona make that kind of money elsewhere in boxing

There gona keep fighting other either way but where are they gona make that much of money, same risk every fight u win or lose

What is it with this forum?

Why the **** would he accept $10m?

Jeez!

Realistically, how much is the fight going to gross in PPV?

It's a good job you're not in business.

A flat fee is BS!

They can do a fair percentage split where Canelo gets the bigger share. But why should Canelo get a HUGE amount more, when:

1. He can't make that money against anyone else.

2. It's GG's belts that they're fighting for.

?

You're using ******ed logic, like when Floyd offered Manny a flat fee. Sure, Manny had never made anything like what Floyd had offered. But look what he ended up with with a fair split? Floyd didn't deserve to earn 4-5 x as much.

Canelo's already messed them around and dropped the belt. He doesn't deserve 70% plus.

It's a joke.

[Robbie Barrett]

What is it with this forum?

Why the **** would he accept $10m?

Jeez!

Realistically, how much is the fight going to gross in PPV?

It's a good job you're not in business.

A flat fee is BS!

They can do a fair percentage split where Canelo gets the bigger share. But why should Canelo get a HUGE amount more, when:

1. He can't make that money against anyone else.

2. It's GG's belts that they're fighting for.

?

You're using ******ed logic, like when Floyd offered Manny a flat fee. Sure, Manny had never made anything like what Floyd had offered. But look what he ended up with with a fair split? Floyd didn't deserve to earn 4-5 x as much.

Canelo's already messed them around and dropped the belt. He doesn't deserve 70% plus.

It's a joke.

Pacquiao was making 20 mil plus and got offered 40 that's 2x what he usually made. Golovkin is being offered 5x what he usually makes, let that sink in for a while.

[robertzimmerman]

It still applies, but you can't let people take advantage of your respect for boxing by accepting crazy offers, otherwise where does it end? "Well you said you weren't a businessman, so either fight for free or we walk!" Where does it end? There are limits to everything, people have to be reasonable. I mean who offers flat terms for a fight over a year out? That's clearly not a serious offer.

Luckily, Team GGG has responded with a serious offer to Team Canelo, and now it's up to Team Canelo to prove they want the fight by accepting a real offer, or they can duck the fight again just like they ducked after the Cotto fight by fighting Khan instead, just like they ducked after the Khan fight by dropping the belt, even though both times they said they would fight GGG but then reneged on their word.

It's gotten to a point where Canelo's team has lost all credibility. Canelo as well. Because they've made promises but then reneged on those promises. They've said things and then done the opposite immediately afterwards. So we can no longer rely on their word. After they already broke their promises multiple times, it actually shows the class of Tom Loeffler and his forgiving nature in this regard that he's even willing to continue operating with verbal agreements with Canelo's team, after they've already broken verbal commitments before. Remember when Oscar said Tom better have his phone on because they would make GGG-Canelo next? But then instead they delayed negotiations for a month hoping GGG would move on, but then when Team GGG smartly waited them out and called their bluff, they dropped the belt?

GGG stills respects box, and will make fair deals as always, but in the end if your opponent is scared to fight you, there's not much you can do. It will be up to Canelo now to tell Oscar he wants this fight, and to make a fair deal. Team GGG as usual has done everything possible to make the fight. They stepped aside to let Cotto-Canelo happen first when they requested that. They let Canelo-Khan happen when Team Canelo requested more time. They have bent over backwards trying to appease Team Canelo but when someone is scared to fight you, there's nothing you can do to force them into the ring with you. We saw as much with Floyd Mayweather. But hopefully Jacobs steps up and we get GGG-Jacobs in December. Kovalev-Ward in November, GGG-Jacobs in December, and hopefully they can sneak in Lomachenko-Walters or something like that... that's a couple high quality fights by HBO which is about all you can expect with their modest budget.

Let's hope that's what happens. Kovalev-Ward, GGG-Jacobs, a good Lomachenko fight, and hopefully some good undercard fights. Maybe Estrada-Cuadras on the undercard of Kovalev-Ward, since that PPV could use Mexicans on the undercard if they want to sell PPVs lol. Quality wise, that would be the best end to an HBO year in recent memory. Quantity wise, they need a bigger budget so they can maintain the quality, but add more fights in general. But for the budget they have, they are much better off going with quality over quantity, and if we get GGG-Jacobs and one or two more good fights, I will be happy.

Hell, this is what boxing fans have been waiting years to see! Good opponents willing to fight Kovalev and GGG so we can see how good they are against the top level guys. GGG already fought one truly top athlete with speed, power, china, etc, in David Lemieux, but Kovalev-Ward and GGG-Jacobs in back-to-back months is really what fans have been wanting to see. Get it done HBO! Quality first! Quantity is only important to the extent it maintains the highest quality matchups! No tuneups! No showcases!

Another great post that will unfortunately be completely lost on these cretins.

[Robi13]

Business

All the dumb ggg fans now see why the belt was vacated??? Can y'all idiots see it now? Millions of reasons why it was the correct business for Canelo and his team! Not only that, it built hatred toward Canelo so much so that people want to see him lose... Remind you of anyone else? Ggg can take a flat 10 mil if he don't want it then 🖕And next!