Comments Thread For: Golovkin Rejects Idea of Catch-Weight For Cotto, Canelo

[cupocity303]

Do you even know what you are talking about wards 168 belts would have been on the line at 164!!! The weight class is 161-168!! GGG was asking for the same thing he is talking crap about with Canelo & Cotto!!

Why does the P4P # 2 fighter in Ward always have to get his way though? He ALWAYS gets it his way. He fought the linear Light-Heavyweight Champion in Chad Dawson at 168. If he just came up to 170 voluntarily (because we know it was Chad's fault for offering to come down to 168), he could've fought Dawson for the Light-Heavyweight strap, BUT HE DIDN'T. He just defended his Title against the Champion one division above him. Pathetic.

And now he wants a Middleweight Title holder (not even the real Champ yet but a Paper Champ) to come all the way up so he can defend his Title again? Why would he want to defend his 168 title against a Paper champ in GGG?

[aboutfkntime]

What's 153???

[cupocity303]

"Catch weights ok for me to ask. Catch weights bad if Cotto/Canelo ask. Big drama show, I'm a good boy."

YES, if GGG went up and won a Super-Middleweight (168) title against someone like Abraham, and then demanded a catchweight against Ward, then your analogy would make sense. Otherwise, we will dismiss your poor analogy at face value.

[hitking]

Yeah but a champion wants all the belts and he wants to beat the best at his weight....and there's still canelo or cotto who are big fights..I don't golovkin that would be afraid from a ward or even kovalev to be honest...I don't see any issue with golovkin wanting all the belts at middleweight...marvin hagler stayed at middleweight his whole career and always called up the smaller guys to face him....the man is just starting to take over the middleweight division and it's not done until he has all the belts.....u should understand that...as for ward...he brings nothing to the table not a light heavyweight title....he boxed 1 time in 3 years and has no market value at the moment.....if ward has a belt and golovkn has the undisputed title then he will move up......but ward is 13 pounds bigger than him naturally and if you know anything about boxing that's a big weight advantage..in fact it's unfair.....kovalev is 174 ward is 172...ward is 6ft 1 and kovalev is 6ft......even matchup we have right there

Unification is only relevant when there's good fighters holding the belts. All the current middleweight beltholders are bums and jr middleweights.

As for the size difference. Ward is a natural super middleweight by today's standards. GGG is a natural middleweight by today's. This 172 debate y'all are making is ******. He fought a non-title fight, where he didn't wanna cut the extra lbs to make 168. Its not uncommon. Check any top fighter's record. Most have fights, especially early in their careers. Where they fought a few lbs above the limit in non-title fights. Either way. Ward is willing to fight GGG. If he can't make 168 comfortablely, advantage GGG.

As for Ward's market value. He brings more than anyone GGG has fought in his career. GGG isn't a crossover star. Pretty much his entire fanbase are hardcore fight fans. Ward-GGG is currently the most talked about fight in the hardcore fight community. What's the problem?

[Fantasiabruja]

well that could be the case....but the simple facts are golovkin is a middleweight fighting at the correct weight.....canelo and cotto are also fighting in the middleweight division and if either one holds a belt at middleweight they defend it at middleweight....so if a fighter is 159 and half they still have to defend it....so it's not calling shots you lunatic it's called being a middleweight champion and defending your title against other middleweights.....cotto and canelo will not be able to call the shots because golovkin is getting bigger and bigger in the public eye and is the most feared man in boxing now.....you only had to hear the support for him to know he has serious bargaining power now...trile GGG will take over the PPV and people will pay to see him fight....who can beat him at middleweight ? And I'm sure if the American public had to choose a Mexican canelo over golovkin I will be very surprised

And I'm sure if the American public had to choose a Mexican canelo over ugolovkin I will be very surprised[/QUOTE

This ^^^^^^right here is an interesting comment coming from a GGG fan. Golovkin is from Kazakhstan a former member of what was once the Soviet Union. America's number one all time enemy. And what exactly makes you think we would favor a Kazakhstan over a neighbor Mexican who by the way looks like an Irish man. For the record I don't root for either one but if I had to choose one over the other to root for it would be Canelo.

[aboutfkntime]

In a middleweight title fight, 153 is middleweight.

In a middleweight title fight, 160 and anything under 160 is middleweight.

AHAHAHAHAH

hitking just fcuked you up LAWLLLL

[cupocity303]

In a middleweight title fight, 153 is middleweight.

In a middleweight title fight, 160 and anything under 160 is middleweight.

You just embarrassed yourself.

[aboutfkntime]

YES, if GGG went up and won a Super-Middleweight (168) title against someone like Abraham, and then demanded a catchweight against Ward, then your analogy would make sense. Otherwise, we will dismiss your poor analogy at face value.

That is weak.

Golovkin was willing to fight Froch/Chavez, but not willing to fight Ward.

Just so long as you're happy with that ^^

[kafkod]

[QUOTE=aboutfkntime;16146580]No, it doesn't...... learn the sport.

To be a LHW you would need to do 2 things.....

1) undertake a training camp where you can prepare to fight at 175, against an opponent who will be doing the same
2) actually fight a LHW

Ward has never done any of those things.

In the Smith fight Ward was coming DOWN to fight a SMW.

He did NOT even prepare to be the best 172lb'er on the planet, because the camp was designed to bring him DOWN in weight, not up..... the goal was to eventually get to 168, which would require a completely different approach.

You need to understand about weight and preparation.

That is like calling Canelo a middleweight because he chooses to fight JMW's at 155 out of entitlement.

Choosing to fight a JMW at 155 simply because it suits him does not make Canelo a middleweight..... it makes him unprofessional./QUOTE]

Whether you come up or down to a weight is irrelevant.

If you fight at 172lbs you are fighting within the LHW division. Therefore, by definition, you are fighting as a LHW.

[cupocity303]

That is weak.

Golovkin was willing to fight Froch/Chavez, but not willing to fight Ward.

Just so long as you're happy with that ^^

Why does the P4P # 2 fighter in Ward always have to get his way though? He ALWAYS gets it his way. He fought the linear Light-Heavyweight Champion in Chad Dawson at 168. If he just came up to 170 voluntarily (because we know it was Chad's fault for offering to come down to 168), he could've fought Dawson for the Light-Heavyweight strap, BUT HE DIDN'T. He just defended his Title against the Champion one division above him. Pathetic.

And now he wants a Middleweight Title holder (not even the real Champ yet but a Paper Champ) to come all the way up so he can defend his Title again? Why would he want to defend his 168 title against a Paper champ in GGG?

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