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Originally posted by HeroBando View PostPrime Froch struggled and won a MD against old and weight drained Glen Johnson. He'd have all kinds of issues even with that old Hopkins. Kessler wasn't even top 25 p4p at the time.
Unlike Bika, Campillo beat a reigning champ and then exposed champs Cloud and Shumenov. Cleverly was anundefeated champ, and Kov fought him in his hometown, something Ward knows nothing about. Abe is a weak SMW, and was coming off 2 horrible schoolings. Dawson had nothing at 168, you don't get credit for that.
It's odd given the mileage Ward got out of that resume (even 4 years later lol), but it's really pretty close.
Like I said, you are an idiot.....
You say that Dawson was compromised, but you will not admit that 50yo Hopkins may also have been compromised?
Kovalev beat two old men, even Froch beat a much better version of Pascal.
Ward beat the #1 guy in the division as a huge underdog, and then he schooled the clear #2 guy.
Oh, and btw, the guy you describe as " a weak SMW " would easily be Golovkins best win.
Remember that later today when we discuss GGG on the other thread.
And, wtf is this..... " Cleverly was an undefeated champ "
you just gotta have someones nuts in your mouth
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Originally posted by aboutfkntime View PostLike I said, you are an idiot.....
You say that Dawson was compromised, but you will not admit that 50yo Hopkins may also have been compromised?
Kovalev beat two old men, even Froch beat a much better version of Pascal.
Ward beat the #1 guy in the division as a huge underdog, and then he schooled the clear #2 guy.
Oh, and btw, the guy you describe as " a weak SMW " would easily be Golovkins best win.
Remember that later today when we discuss GGG on the other thread.
And, wtf is this..... " Cleverly was an undefeated champ "
you just gotta have someones nuts in your mouth
Put it like this, Ward vs Dawson was a straight to video version of the Pac DLH blockbuster. I already said Hopkins was old, but he was good enough to hold 2 belts and clown a couple of Ring top tenner. Meanwhile that Dawson is roadkill for anyone top 10 at SMW.
Pascal is 32 moron, that's not old. 1 fight before Froch he was looking like **** on FNF, and was looking like an underwhelming prospect. I bet you didnt see any of these fights, just boxrecd them.
Abe is proven mediocre at SMW, and was coming off 2 humiliating schoolings. That wouldn't be GGG's best win, hell Murray is 50/50 vs Abe on neutral ground, coming up in weight. Would be in the running for top 3, same with Ward.
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Originally posted by HeroBando View PostBut I can work internet links, understand how rankings works, and have a clue about boxing in general.
Put it like this, Ward vs Dawson was a straight to video version of the Pac DLH blockbuster. I already said Hopkins was old, but he was good enough to hold 2 belts and clown a couple of Ring top tenner. Meanwhile that Dawson is roadkill for anyone top 10 at SMW.
Pascal is 32 moron, that's not old. 1 fight before Froch he was looking like **** on FNF, and was looking like an underwhelming prospect. I bet you didnt see any of these fights, just boxrecd them.
Abe is proven mediocre at SMW, and was coming off 2 humiliating schoolings. That wouldn't be GGG's best win, hell Murray is 50/50 vs Abe on neutral ground, coming up in weight. Would be in the running for top 3, same with Ward.
You think that middleweights weigh 155.
You think that Cotto is the best middleweight in the world.
You think that the lineal champ Stevenson is better than Kovalev.
You thought that Pacquiao was on Mayweathers level.
You thought that Matthyse was a top fighter, in fact you reconfirmed that to me about 1 day before he got KTFO.
You think that truly elite fighters are boring.
You think that catchweights are acceptable, oh, unless it doesn't suit your agenda, in which case you will attempt to argue a silly double-standard so that your current girlfriend doesn't end up with lipstick smeared all over her face.
I do not agree with the bold one bit. Not a bit
And rubbish kid, Abraham would easily be Golovkins best win.
Right now, Abraham > Murray.
Also, regarding Pascal..... boxing " prime " has nothing to do with age, wouldn't a knowledgable guy who had "a clue about boxing in general" know that?
Froch beat a much better version of Pascal than Kovalev did.
Pascal is done.
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What CoWard nuthuggers to not realize is that GGG team is trying to protect Ward from himself. Just like late Gossen did.
IF GGG fight Ward now, he will beat the shut out of his little black a$$. And the problem is that none of them will not earn as much as they should.
Ward will fall back to the obscurity, and his boxing career will be ruined. With loss on his resume, boring style and no fans he could start as ringside commentator for good.
Ward was known for bad business decisions, but GGG wants to protect him. Wants him to regain public focus, get some more fans and make some nice fights/wins.
And than when they both gets top spots in 2017, they should make mega fight 100 times better than May-Pac. And earn hundreds of millions.
And than GGG willknock out Ward silly!
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Originally posted by Mate_Parlov View PostWhat CoWard nuthuggers to not realize is that GGG team is trying to protect Ward from himself. Just like late Gossen did.
IF GGG fight Ward now, he will beat the shut out of his little black a$$. And the problem is that none of them will not earn as much as they should.
Ward will fall back to the obscurity, and his boxing career will be ruined. With loss on his resume, boring style and no fans he could start as ringside commentator for good.
Ward was known for bad business decisions, but GGG wants to protect him. Wants him to regain public focus, get some more fans and make some nice fights/wins.
And than when they both gets top spots in 2017, they should make mega fight 100 times better than May-Pac. And earn hundreds of millions.
And than GGG willknock out Ward silly!
GGG will not fight Ward, because he wants Ward to make more money ?
Because of the things that Ward has said, and because he has made Team Golovkin look ******..... Golovkin should want to spank Ward and take his shoes.
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these articles are click/flame bait
without being at the negotiations we as fans have no fking clue who's telling the truth
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Originally posted by joesaiditstrue View Postthese articles are click/flame bait
without being at the negotiations we as fans have no fking clue who's telling the truth
They couldn't have, impossible.
Haven't heard them deny the 36-min, which would be easy to confirm.
Only one side threatened legal action, and I haven't heard a peep from the other side since.
Team Golovkin have been making excuses to avoid (not duck) Ward for years, this is just proof in the pudding.
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Golovkin fights in October, Ward fights in November, and then all hell breaks lose:
-Cotto and Canelo doing a rematch makes double the money for both guys than either fighting Golovkin.
-Jacobs-Quillin and Lee-Saunders both happen in December, likely setting off the winners fighting each other in the Spring (with Eubank Jr not that far behind).
-Golovkin owes the IBF a mandatory defense, in a fight that HBO is actually unlikely to pick up.
-Doubt that Andre Ward took all that much of a paycut in agreeing to the rumored three-fight deal.
Golovkin will end up heading into Christmas without really anything to look forward to but his Ward nightmares, lol.
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Originally posted by Scipio2009 View PostGolovkin fights in October, Ward fights in November, and then all hell breaks lose:
-Cotto and Canelo doing a rematch makes double the money for both guys than either fighting Golovkin.
-Jacobs-Quillin and Lee-Saunders both happen in December, likely setting off the winners fighting each other in the Spring (with Eubank Jr not that far behind).
-Golovkin owes the IBF a mandatory defense, in a fight that HBO is actually unlikely to pick up.
-Doubt that Andre Ward took all that much of a paycut in agreeing to the rumored three-fight deal.
Golovkin will end up heading into Christmas without really anything to look forward to but his Ward nightmares, lol.
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