list your top 5 heavyweights and explain.

[Burzum_666]

1. Chris Byrd: Because of his consistency I feel he deserves the top spot though the Davarryl Williamson fight was the most disgraceful fight I've ever seen.

2. Hasim Rahman: Solid fighter can beat most of the other Heavyweights, dissapointing performance against Toney

3: James Toney: Fatass, whom I can never respect because of his lack of conditioning, but his skill can't be argued, he's my # 3 guy and this is a big negative on the division that he should be ranked so high or even at all.

4. Sergei Liakhovich: I had Brewster ranked here. Liakhovich beat that ass, so now he takes the spot.

5: Calvin Brock: Good fighter, waiting for him to step up to one of the top guys.

[Toller]

4. Danny Williams.

The Englishman who has won his last two fights against pretty solid opposition, and carries the intangibles that make a successful heavyweight. He has the heart as well as power to remain dangerous in fights, given he survives. Other fighters will have to be weary of this.

Did you see his last 2 fights? He probably just about deserved the win against Harrison, but it was an embarrasing performance that nearly got himself knocked out in the last couple of rounds. And against Skelton the vast majority scored the fight for Skelton by 1 or 2 rounds.

Perhaps if he hired a new trainer and dropped 20lbs he might be competitive, but that's not going to happen.

[dansweeney]

1.Wlad Klitshcko-this pains me very much,but he has the most skill, has great power, and has the best trainer in boxing, which for wlad counts alot.
2.Sam Peter-anybody not named Wlad would have been knocked out in their fight. he just hired Jessie Reid as his new trainer, the guy Lamon just fired. ironically Lamon loses his first fight without reid, he could be good for peter.
3.Hasim Rahman-2 time champ now, i thought he def won the fight with toney. his jab will keep him competitive, and when he isn't facing such a slick fighter, he should be able to land the big right.
4. Lamon Brewster-he isn't done by any means, several times ive seen a guy come in with a new trainer and look like **** in that first fight. it takes 2 or 3 fights to adjust. if he is 225 or below his stamina is much better. and with his chin,heart, and power he can't be counted out.
5.Calvin Brock-hey, he is still undefeated. he has the amateur background, he has power, he showed heart against mccline, and he can box. we will know more after his fight with ibragimov.

just outside is Shannon Briggs, this guy has been there before, and he is extremely active right now, that is HUGE in boxing.

[PBDS]

1.Wlad Klitshcko-this pains me very much,but he has the most skill, has great power, and has the best trainer in boxing, which for wlad counts alot.
2.Sam Peter-anybody not named Wlad would have been knocked out in their fight. he just hired Jessie Reid as his new trainer, the guy Lamon just fired. ironically Lamon loses his first fight without reid, he could be good for peter.
3.Hasim Rahman-2 time champ now, i thought he def won the fight with toney. his jab will keep him competitive, and when he isn't facing such a slick fighter, he should be able to land the big right.
4. Lamon Brewster-he isn't done by any means, several times ive seen a guy come in with a new trainer and look like **** in that first fight. it takes 2 or 3 fights to adjust. if he is 225 or below his stamina is much better. and with his chin,heart, and power he can't be counted out.
5.Calvin Brock-hey, he is still undefeated. he has the amateur background, he has power, he showed heart against mccline, and he can box. we will know more after his fight with ibragimov.

just outside is Shannon Briggs, this guy has been there before, and he is extremely active right now, that is HUGE in boxing.

...Dan's Weeney, even though I always thought you were a biased anti Wlad guy, I always had some respect for your boxing knowledge. Now that I see your just calling it as you see it and you have no agenda, I have tons more respect for you.

[Dye]

1. W.Klitchsko=the best doesnt matter what you guys say.
2.Calvin Brock=a good fighter
3.Sam Peter=can knockout anyone if he lands a clean shot
4.Hasim Rahman=He deserved the win agianst Fatty
5.Chris Byrd=Great boxing skills

[Hitman932]

1. klitshko- why? cause you have to make up reasons not to put him here
2. rahman- beat the best boxer (skillwise) in the div
3. byrd - let him have three more weeks in my top 5
4. lyakovich - showed good but not great all around skills
5. peter - i think byrd or lyko could outbox him if he fought like vs hawkins

22. brewster- R.I.P.

[dansweeney]

...Dan's Weeney, even though I always thought you were a biased anti Wlad guy, I always had some respect for your boxing knowledge. Now that I see your just calling it as you see it and you have no agenda, I have tons more respect for you.

thanks, i decided to let my boxing knowledge flow without bias, i noticed that guys who always are bias don't get the same respect that others do. it's pretty obvious at this point that Wlad has the best chance of dominating the division if anybody is going to do it. there's no denying it at this point.

[keystone30pack]

1. vacant
2. wlad/byrd- winner moves up to #1 spot
3. brock- throws combos- excitingly mediocre
4. peter-big hitter and has shown he can go distance
5. sergei-big ? after 1 good fight/ brewster- he actually fights and imo would take rahman, toney, briggs, valuev,& d williams

[cold]

The future Heavyweight Champion of the World is Denis Boytsov until then...


1. Nikolay Valuev
43 fights and NEVER Defeated EVER- that makes him #1 (he is not ducking people either just has not fought the other holders Klitschko, Byrd etc..) Next big fight should reveal all.

2. Serguei Lyakhovich

3. Wladimir Klitschko

4. Samuel Peter

5. Hasim Rahman

6. Calvin Brock (imo he will be Ko'ed soon)

7. Lamon Brewster

8. Chris Byrd

9. Ruslan Chagaev

10. Kevin McBride

How I see it is-


James Toney lost to Rahman and Toney is finished. (I want to see Toney vs Valuev for fun)

John Ruiz will not win a Heavyweight Title again.

Chris Byrd loses to Klitschko.

Calvin Brock will be out boxed and Ko'ed soon but he does have good punch power.

Lyakhovich beats Brewster again.

Samuel Peter I thought he could beat Klitschko but not that time.

Someone beat Valuev and he is off the list Until Then He is UNBEATEN...

Ruslan Chagaev may beat them all and Denis Boytsov should fight for a title.

[dansweeney]

The future Heavyweight Champion of the World is Denis Boytsov until then...


1. Nikolay Valuev
43 fights and NEVER Defeated EVER- that makes him #1 (he is not ducking people either just has not fought the other holders Klitschko, Byrd etc..) Next big fight should reveal all.

2. Serguei Lyakhovich

3. Wladimir Klitschko

4. Samuel Peter

5. Hasim Rahman

6. Calvin Brock (imo he will be Ko'ed soon)

7. Lamon Brewster

8. Chris Byrd

9. Ruslan Chagaev

10. Kevin McBride

How I see it is-


James Toney lost to Rahman and Toney is finished. (I want to see Toney vs Valuev for fun)

John Ruiz will not win a Heavyweight Title again.

Chris Byrd loses to Klitschko.

Calvin Brock will be out boxed and Ko'ed soon but he does have good punch power.

Lyakhovich beats Brewster again.

Samuel Peter I thought he could beat Klitschko but not that time.

Ruslan Chagaev may beat them all and Denis Boytsov should fight for a title.

your list is definitly suspect, but how dare you, i mean how dare you!!, put Kevin Mcbride in your top 10!!! i could have beaten tyson that night, he just didn't want to fight anymore. mcbride is terrible