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    #81
    It's bad enough that this was a horrid mismatch but then the thread title, I've been here since 2006 and that's got to be the most disturbing thread title.

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      #82
      Originally posted by big_james10 View Post
      Saves boxing from what? Last weekend we saw a fight that sold between five and six million PPVs. I doubt if Alvarez/Kirland attracted 1.5 million to watch it on HBO. Just how the hell does watching a B+ level fighter knock out a C+ level fighter save boxing?
      You think those 5-6 million people are gonna keep tuning in after what they saw last week. The consensus is that the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight was a snoozefest. All the casuals I talked to just thought that fight was terrible. Literally, that fight may have killed boxing.

      Now you have a fight that likely had more action in 3 rounds than Mayweather has had in his last two fights total. The thing is, casuals want to see exciting fights, this isn't rocket science. I desperately wish casual fans would do 5 million pay-per-view buys for fights like tonight's. I really wish they could see exciting fights, instead of tuning in once in a blue moon for big name fights, that usually never deliver.

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        #83
        Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma View Post
        Leonard, that's Leonard, Sugar Ray Leonard.

        We're talking about Kirkland here,

        Kirkland

        Kirkland

        James Kirkland

        Kirkland

        Kirkland

        Kirkland

        Kirkland
        Doesn't matter. Same thing can be said for the ginger. It's Canelo. The flat-footed, slow, plodding, no defense, suspect chin some people make him out to be. Also was on a long layoff. One more thing, you already said that in another thread. Tell me something I haven't seen.

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          #84
          Originally posted by David_Rosenberg View Post
          Doesn't matter. Same thing can be said for the ginger. It's Canelo. The flat-footed, slow, plodding, no defense, suspect chin some people make him out to be. Also was on a long layoff. One more thing, you already said that in another thread. Tell me something I haven't seen.
          Just saying Kirkland should suffice.

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            #85
            Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma View Post
            Shit defense, equally as shitty chin, long layoff, against a very good puncher who so happens to be an exceptional combination puncher. I'm as big a Canelo fan as anyone and the sport doesn't need these kind of mismatches.
            Dude, you're acting like Kirkland is some kind of green up and coming fighter, with 10-1 record or something. Yes, everyone knows Kirkland has a shaky chin, but he is also a dangerous opponent with good conditioning, pressure, and good power. This is his selling point. But, don't act like this guy is a pushover. The fight was staged on the basis that it could end at any moment in the fight, and that either guy could be knocked out. It was staged on the basis of excitement.

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              #86
              Originally posted by PBP View Post
              That is not good boxing. It's totally irresponsible as a trainer to have your fighter fight the way Kirkland did tonight. You can be skillful, defensively responsible and exciting like Chavez Sr, Duran, Barerra and Morales and still have a long, successful career.

              There is a difference between a great brawl and a beat down like this that will cut his career short and damage him mentally.
              Not specifically referring to Canelo/Kirkland but to exciting fights in general.

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                #87
                Canelo vs. Cotto could go a long way to bringing back da casuals.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by SUBZER0ED View Post
                  I looked at this fight as a litmus test for Canelo and Kirkland. Canelo is touted as the next potential mega Mexican star, who is yet untested. Kirkland is known as a tough fighter who has shown vulnerability, but is still feared for his relentless style and power. Canelo was tested out of the gate, but stepped up and crushed his opponent. After that drivel last week, I feel some satisfaction in seeing tonight's fight.
                  Yes, very good point. Canelo is getting matched against different styles. He has faced awkward tall fighters, pure boxers, and now power punching pressure fighters. They are trying to have him get used to all these styles. Don't understand why people are calling this a mismatch, as if Canelo was in there with some 10-1 level fighter. This was a dangerous fight for both, either one could have been knocked out.

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                    #89
                    This fight was nothing more than to get the hype train rolling again. They made this fight to make Canelo look like some big bad knockout artist. This fight does nothing for canelos career. You learn nothing from an easy beat down like this. Cotto is a whole nother animal from kirkland especially the cotto that is with Freddie roach.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by sparkman0811 View Post
                      Dude, you're acting like Kirkland is some kind of green up and coming fighter, with 10-1 record or something. Yes, everyone knows Kirkland has a shaky chin, but he is also a dangerous opponent with good conditioning, pressure, and good power. This is his selling point. But, don't act like this guy is a pushover. The fight was staged on the basis that it could end at any moment in the fight, and that either guy could be knocked out. It was staged on the basis of excitement.
                      Why should I acknowledge his conditioning and ability to pressure when it comes with a lot of unwanted perks, shit chin, shittier defense, long layoff, there was nothing exciting about this. This is equivalent to fight compilation videos on Worldstar.

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