Comments Thread For: Roach Admits Pacquiao Fumble in First Mayweather Talks

[creekrat77]

I agree. Floyd trying to cherry pick Manny to duck Khan, Too bad for Floyd, Arum is cock blocking Floyd from tapping Manny for May 2nd.

Really? I feel like Amir Khan is much less of a threat compared to Pac's fast pace footwork and endless feints. Not to mention one has glass chin problems while the other doesn't. Don't get me wrong I'd like to see Khan give it a shot with Floyd. However I'd rather see him rematch that PR f@ggot and kick his @ss first

[littlemac]

Manny called out Floyd, Marquez and Bradley last year and this year. All said no last year. The only one that said yes this year, Manny fought him. All of the above, as you know, were risky fights for Manny.

If Marquez and Floyd would have said that they were interested, Rios and Algieri fights would not have happened as they did. So Rios was Manny's 4th option and Algieri was Manny's 3rd option.

Oscar knew that Manny was fast. Oscar was training for speed. His theory was to come in light so that he would be faster. It back-fired.

You admit that Cotto was a good win.


The point is that Manny has fought enough risky fights to say that your logic is flawed. The only one who avoided risky fights were Floyd. Even when he has the advantage, he tries to get more (CW, gloves, ring, .....)

All Manny does is call out Floyd while hiding behind Bob and taking cherry pick fights Arum sets him up with. Manny's word has no value cause Arum is the one holding the key and that is what Manny pays Arum to do so start saving your money for Vargas cause that's what your gana get cause looks like Manny is once again getting Arum to duck Cinco de Mayweather for him.

[littlemac]

Really? I feel like Amir Khan is much less of a threat compared to Pac's fast pace footwork and endless feints. Not to mention one has glass chin problems while the other doesn't. Don't get me wrong I'd like to see Khan give it a shot with Floyd. However I'd rather see him rematch that PR f@ggot and kick his @ss first

Well Khan maybe Floyd's only option cause Arum would much rather help his client be free from getting schooled by Floyd. Arum sees Vargas more beneficial for his client.

[creekrat77]

Well Khan maybe Floyd's only option cause Arum would much rather help his client be free from getting schooled by Floyd. Arum sees Vargas more beneficial for his client.

Maybe, I mean I could easily see Arum thinking that but idk what he is actually thinking. I think it would make more since for Vargas to fight Danny or Lucas possibly even Broner, Mikey or Crawford too. Also Lamont. Pac would wipe the floor with Vargas and would destroy his already lack luster resume. Pac's fighting days are numbered and could easily see him retiring after 2015 and the poor guy will just wait for Floyd.

[ADP02]

All Manny does is call out Floyd while hiding behind Bob and taking cherry pick fights Arum sets him up with. Manny's word has no value cause Arum is the one holding the key and that is what Manny pays Arum to do so start saving your money for Vargas cause that's what your gana get cause looks like Manny is once again getting Arum to duck Cinco de Mayweather for him.

You still don't get it. What is there to worry about? Losing? Manny has already lost before. So what? It's not the end all that you Floyd fans think it is. Everyone says it that it's a bigger deal in Floyd's mind. Wrong logic in my books but it is. You seem to be taking the same approach but it's not logical if you say that about Manny.

Was Manny going to duck Morales? Manny lost to Morales. Did he duck because he was concerned to lose twice? No!

Manny beat and lost to Marquez. So what. It became a huge rivalry. You just don't get it. Ali lost to Frazier, Norton. It made all involved bigger! Gatti lost to Ward, Ward lost to Gatti. So what? It became a huge trilogy.

Floyd wished that he faced Manny and lost to Manny and came back to win twice like Ali did to Frazier. It would have made Floyd better than ducking for 5 years.


Even taking the negotiations out of it. The only ones that have said that they were NOT interested in a fight came from Floyd's camp. Floyd Sr said it. Floyd Jr said it many, many times.

This year: "Does Manny want the fight? Absolutely but I'm not desperate ...." - Floyd




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[meme_man]

If Top Rank would to give at least a sound excuse or possibly an alternative date then I could go with that, but all Arum has been doing is saying no with an redicolous excuse that even Oscar shot down and yet Arum still pushing that excuse and leaving everyone in the dark. Clearly its not looking like Arum really wants it.

I agree arum is really pushing that cotto/canelo fight

[screwhead1]

How can anyone defend a dude saying we can't have a fight until an outdoor stadium was built? Did he build that stadium?

How can someone defend a team of someone claiming they are scared of needles and then be on 24/7 getting a tattoo? I don't want to mention him actually taking blood tests after the fact.

For Roach to say this and know the backlash he would get. I personally believe he didn't think pac was on anything and later found out he was. There was a dramatic change in Pac once the heat of testing was on the table. Did anyone look at his legs during the Cotto fight? Cotto was literally teeing off on this man's stomach and he is laughing it off. Roach comes in and says it's great because they had the advantage they needed to win the fight how they wanted. He said the same thing about Oscar and seeing the IV marks in his arms.

Floyd can fight in May, but sorry, Manny can't. Oh wait, Floyd can't fight in May, well that's too bad, cause Manny can. Floyd called Manny and offered him $40M directly and he hung up on him. But Floyd is scared of Manny? How can anyone look at this and come to the conclusion that Floyd just wants to keep running from Manny.

Personal Theory: As Floyd retired, Bob took the opportunity to build up the best boxer possible. Floyd didn't like Bob getting the spotlight due to their past so he took the opportunity to come back and fight AFTER Marquez, a consistent problem for Manny, called him out. Floyd beat him 100 rounds to 0 and folks want to seriously make claims that it was the 2 lb difference in how he won?

The only thing I can say is that Manny has some dedicated fans to deny all of this rhetoric coming from everyone in his camp. Including him, How can you deny a blood test and have people say that's good cause you didn't need it anyway. Do people consider Rios a ***** for having a blood test?

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[Small Turn]

Manny Pacman was the "A side" at that time right! You can't dictate the A side what to do RIGHT f lommoss

[Bronx2245]

How can anyone defend a dude saying we can't have a fight until an outdoor stadium was built? Did he build that stadium?

How can someone defend a team of someone claiming they are scared of needles and then be on 24/7 getting a tattoo? I don't want to mention him actually taking blood tests after the fact.

For Roach to say this and know the backlash he would get. I personally believe he didn't think pac was on anything and later found out he was. There was a dramatic change in Pac once the heat of testing was on the table. Did anyone look at his legs during the Cotto fight? Cotto was literally teeing off on this man's stomach and he is laughing it off. Roach comes in and says it's great because they had the advantage they needed to win the fight how they wanted. He said the same thing about Oscar and seeing the IV marks in his arms.

Floyd can fight in May, but sorry, Manny can't. Oh wait, Floyd can't fight in May, well that's too bad, cause Manny can. Floyd called Manny and offered him $40M directly and he hung up on him. But Floyd is scared of Manny? How can anyone look at this and come to the conclusion that Floyd just wants to keep running from Manny.

Personal Theory: As Floyd retired, Bob took the opportunity to build up the best boxer possible. Floyd didn't like Bob getting the spotlight due to their past so he took the opportunity to come back and fight AFTER Marquez, a consistent problem for Manny, called him out. Floyd beat him 100 rounds to 0 and folks want to seriously make claims that it was the 2 lb difference in how he won?

The only thing I can say is that Manny has some dedicated fans to deny all of this rhetoric coming from everyone in his camp. Including him, How can you deny a blood test and have people say that's good cause you didn't need it anyway. Do people consider Rios a ***** for having a blood test?

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