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Matthysse vs Garcia - Would Matthysse have won with both eyes?
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True that, mayne. Like I said I was pretty damn intoxicated during that fight, all I remember is being pissed during the late rounds because it was apparent Garcia was pulling away with Lucas having that bad eye. I had dreams of Lucas collapsing Danny and the camera immediately panning over to get Daddy Garcia's face. Wasn't meant to be.
Would love to see a rematch but it doesn't seem likely at the moment.
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It happens. Garcia took advantage of something that sometimes just happens. You can't deny him his credit.
Only problems I have are when people deny that Lucas was in control at the time, and when they pretend that Danny landed some great punch that caused it, or that he landed so many times on the eye to cause it. It was a freak injury caused by a grazing right hand that might have even been the back of the glove. Five seconds later Lucas's eye is closed.
Again, it happens, but I hate when people pretend it didn't change a fight that Lucas was winning. It's a very interesting question, what happens if it didn't happen? Maybe nothing changes, maybe Lucas continues his momentum and stops Garcia.
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Originally posted by bojangles1987 View PostIt happens. Garcia took advantage of something that sometimes just happens. You can't deny him his credit.
Only problems I have are when people deny that Lucas was in control at the time, and when they pretend that Danny landed some great punch that caused it, or that he landed so many times on the eye to cause it. It was a freak injury caused by a grazing right hand that might have even been the back of the glove. Five seconds later Lucas's eye is closed.
Again, it happens, but I hate when people pretend it didn't change a fight that Lucas was winning. It's a very interesting question, what happens if it didn't happen? Maybe nothing changes, maybe Lucas continues his momentum and stops Garcia.
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The eye did change what was a close fight and it wasn't caused by a punch, but it also wasn't intentional, which you can clearly see in the video.
That's not to say that Danny would not have won. I had Lucas winning this one easily in the build up and was gutted with the result. but after a few re-views, Danny had a pretty solid game plan, which perfectly countered Lucas' success in taking away Dannys left hook, So it could still have gone either way with or without the eye.
All things considered, there was only 19 or so punches in it at the final bell and boxing needs more matches with humble guys like these, who are not throwing around demands or turning the sport into a soap opera (Angel can be a pantomime baddie sometimes).
Both showed class post fight and would be good role models for any up and coming fighters.
Rematch please
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