Beef with Top Rank and Arum

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edgarg = Bob Arum?

Welcome to BoxingScene, Mr. Arum

[craigus1990]

edgarg = Bob Arum?

Welcome to BoxingScene, Mr. Arum

The guy straight up accused me of being antisemitic for posting a couple articles that explained why Arum and Mayweather and GBP don't get on and don't do business and why people dislike him. I was not 'hating' on Arum or saying Mayweather and GBP are/were right and that Arum is evil or anything, I was merely showing why Mayweather and GBP don't do business with him... why the relationship turned sour. I have no interest in taking sides, I just wanted to help answer a question but I get called a **** for it? What a strange man Edgard is.

[edgarg]

How does any of what you've said change the fact that Floyd was willing to fight Margarito, and Cotto in their primes? He had no problem w/ the 8 mil for Margarito, but wanted more for Cotto and Hatton(which he got and a lot more, as a free agent)...ARUM said this AFTER Floyd had already bought his contract out. It so sad to see someone so stuck to their hate that they will lie, distort and even ignore reaity, just to continue holding onto it.

"How does any of what YOU'VE said change the fact that...." In an earlier part of your report you say that Ellerbe reported that Mayweather wanted to fight Margarito but had (by "coincidence") bruised his hand and couldn't, but (again by "coincidence") bought out his contract right then) and later in the "same" (?) report (I think you've stuck a few different reports together to make one....) you have Ellerbe saying that the reason that he wouldn't fight Margarito was because he wanted more money.

And yet.... when taxed by the reporters about giving up such a big purse he said he'd got more for Baldomir. He later said it was $8 mill and ONE CENT. (or maybe $8 mill and one dollar). I think you are just enjoying churning out the crap to people who weren't born or can't remember what happened then. Everything I've posted has been what I read on this very site..

[edgarg]

Then it's not me that's wrong it Arum, because the words came from his mouth, not mine.

And I quote AGAIN:

"Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million."

Arum said Floyd was willing to take all three fight for the right money.

Nothing I've said disputes this, I just pointed out the very "adjacent" bruised hand +quick buy out, with the no bruised hand + wanted more money for Margarito.

what are you trying to prove..

[edgarg]

And that has what to do with the " he ducked Margarito" nonsense and Arum completely contradicting it?

You are getting more befuddled than ever......
I nowhere said anything about Mayweather "DUCKING" Margarito. I don't believe that I've ever in my life used that expression. I merely pointed out the coincidental Ellerbe claim that it was a bruised hand + the very prompt buy out of his contract which was contrary to Ellerbe's later claim in your "same" report that it was because Mayweather wanted more money + the fact that Mayweather later claimed that he'd actually gotten more money quoting $8 mill an ONE cent (or ONE dollar)......

Beat that...... if you can...

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"How does any of what YOU'VE said change the fact that...." In an earlier part of your report you say that Ellerbe reported that Mayweather wanted to fight Margarito but had (by "coincidence") bruised his hand and couldn't, but (again by "coincidence") bought out his contract right then) and later in the "same" (?) report (I think you've stuck a few different reports together to make one....) you have Ellerbe saying that the reason that he wouldn't fight Margarito was because he wanted more money.

So because he Ellerbe said that as one of the reasons, that negates the fact that Arum admitted that he was willing if offered the right money? Are you using that same logic for the MANY MANY reasons Pacs team had for not accepting drug testing. Drug testing that he is now magically willing and able to take? Didn't think so. Stuck a few reports together to make one? Have at it, he's the link. , but you are still ignoring the main point of what I am saying. Why is that, it doesn't suit your agenda of hate against Floyd?

And yet.... when taxed by the reporters about giving up such a big purse he said he'd got more for Baldomir. He later said it was $8 mill and ONE CENT. (or maybe $8 mill and one dollar). I think you are just enjoying churning out the crap to people who weren't born or can't remember what happened then. Everything I've posted has been what I read on this very site..

iIt was 8 million and 1 dollar. I remember....so what! I don' know how much he made and neither do you. But, WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH ARUM ADMITTING THAT FLOYD WAS WILLING TO FIGHT MARGARITO? I will answer for you. It has NOTHING to do with it, you just don't want to admit you we're wrong about all that "ducking" Margarito " nonsense.

[edgarg]

The guy straight up accused me of being antisemitic for posting a couple articles that explained why Arum and Mayweather and GBP don't get on and don't do business and why people dislike him. I was not 'hating' on Arum or saying Mayweather and GBP are/were right and that Arum is evil or anything, I was merely showing why Mayweather and GBP don't do business with him... why the relationship turned sour. I have no interest in taking sides, I just wanted to help answer a question but I get called a **** for it? What a strange man Edgard is.

Stop exaggerating, you were not called a Na-- (I hate to mention the word). I have noticed that you have often posted comments or reports showing Top Rank in a bad light, and as far as tonight is concerned it's very rare that anyone would go to the trouble of piecing a whole collection of reports together to make one very selective whole..... Why I asked...... you didn't really say.

Recall please, I DID say it could be subconscious. The whole world including America, Canada, Britain, all Europe, South America etc were the very same. Read any book and even the briefest mention of a *** is "Hebraic features" or "Semitic cast of countenance", or "beady eyed European whose name ends in "-stein" or "hook nosed typical of his race" etc.etc ad nauseam. I myself have never or very rarely seen anyone resembling those just depicted. And they were even more likely to be Southern Italian, Greek, Turks or Spaniards etc, in fact mediterranean types.

[edgarg]

So because he Ellerbe said that as one of the reasons, that negates the fact that Arum admitted that he was willing if offered the right money? Are you using that same logic for the MANY MANY reasons Pacs team had for not accepting drug testing. Drug testing that he is now magically willing and able to take? Didn't think so. Stuck a few reports together to make one? Have at it, he's the link. , but you are still ignoring the main point of what I am saying. Why is that, it doesn't suit your agenda of hate against Floyd?



iIt was 8 million and 1 dollar. I remember....so what! I don' know how much he made and neither do you. But, WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH ARUM ADMITTING THAT FLOYD WAS WILLING TO FIGHT MARGARITO? I will answer for you. It has NOTHING to do with it, you just don't want to admit you we're wrong about all that "ducking" Margarito " nonsense.

Who knows?? Can you get into Arums mind or memory banks?? As your report said, they parted on the best of terms and Arum was expecting Mayweather to rejoin with Top Rank. He wouldn't say anything detrimental to that potential relationship, expecially since he'd invested multi-millions (contradict me) inpromoting him. He likely didn't make back what he'd laid out over the many years.

Why don't you attend to Ellerbe's contradictory reports?? You know...Ellerbe...the CEO of ayweather "Promotions"...?? The guy who was first seen and heard of as Mayweather's 2nd cornerman.

[craigus1990]

Stop exaggerating, you were not called a Na-- (I hate to mention the word). I have noticed that you have often posted comments or reports showing Top Rank in a bad light, and as far as tonight is concerned it's very rare that anyone would go to the trouble of piecing a whole collection of reports together to make one very selective whole..... Why I asked...... you didn't really say.

Recall please, I DID say it could be subconscious. The whole world including America, Canada, Britain, all Europe, South America etc were the very same. Read any book and even the briefest mention of a *** is "Hebraic features" or "Semitic cast of countenance", or "beady eyed European whose name ends in "-stein" or "hook nosed typical of his race" etc.etc ad nauseam. I myself have never or very rarely seen anyone resembling those just depicted. And they were even more likely to be Southern Italian, Greek, Turks or Spaniards etc, in fact mediterranean types.

I think you have issues. I have never posted anything antisemitic nor do I post hate filled agenda towards TR. Go and check my posts, do it now, find some quotes where I am using TR or Bob Arum's name in a bad way? You won't find anything because that is not something I would bother or care to post. I quickly Googled "Mayweather sues Bob Arum" and "GBP sues Bob Arum" into google and cut a couple quotes out of those articles to indicate why relations between GBP, Mayweather and Arum turned sour and business deals became untenable. I also pointed out his bribery of a judge to indicate why people dislike him. I did these things because someone on here wanted to know the answer to a question, I thought I would quickly provide some answers whilst I was online and not doing much else. I have not said I dislike him, I have not accused him of anything and I have not mentioned the word ***ish (apart from after you brought it into the equation). You are saying that I am subconsciously or consciously antisemitic, which in a public forum is slander against my name. I don't find it funny and am highly offended by the remark as you have just made a wild assertion without any evidence. I demand that you apologize for the remark and you think before saying something like that to someone again.

[edgarg]

So because he Ellerbe said that as one of the reasons, that negates the fact that Arum admitted that he was willing if offered the right money? Are you using that same logic for the MANY MANY reasons Pacs team had for not accepting drug testing. Drug testing that he is now magically willing and able to take? Didn't think so. Stuck a few reports together to make one? Have at it, he's the link. , but you are still ignoring the main point of what I am saying. Why is that, it doesn't suit your agenda of hate against Floyd?



iIt was 8 million and 1 dollar. I remember....so what! I don' know how much he made and neither do you. But, WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH ARUM ADMITTING THAT FLOYD WAS WILLING TO FIGHT MARGARITO? I will answer for you. It has NOTHING to do with it, you just don't want to admit you we're wrong about all that "ducking" Margarito " nonsense.

Ellerbe didn't give it as "ONE" of the reasons. According to your report it was THE reason. And...i'm not dis*****g anything that Arum said or may have said. He had his own reasons for saying whatever he did, and since the Arum and Ellerbe comments were not in the same time period I don't see one exonerating or negating the other. There is no connection as far as i can see. Perhaps you can connect them.... do...please do...