Comments Thread For: David Haye on The Klitschko Deal, Their History: Part 2

[hweightblogger]

I think they COULD beat Haye, but he won't fight any of them and test himself.

That's the point.

Haye has really done very little at HW, certainly not what he built himself up to do. He won't take risks at all.

The Klitschkos fight anyone willing to get in the ring with them, which some are not (Haye, Povetkin, and many others).

I'll believe Haye gets in with either K-Bro when I see it happening.

Wlad has beaten 8 (ex)champs (I included Danell Nicholson), Haye has beaten 2 (far older than Wlad's).

But that's not the whole picture.

If Wlad beats Haye then it will be 9:2.

But that's still not the point.

20 years from now Haye will still have 2 because it's unlikely that Audley ever becomes a world champ.

Wlad, however, will have beaten Chambers and maybe some others who will become champs in the future.

Moreover when Wlad beats Haye, Wlad will have 17 real heavyweight world title wins and Haye 2. THAT is the real difference.

[Rick Grimes]

Wlad has beaten 8 (ex)champs (I included Danell Nicholson), Haye has beaten 2 (far older than Wlad's).

But that's not the whole picture.

If Wlad beats Haye then it will be 9:2.

But that's still not the point.

20 years from now Haye will still have 2 because it's unlikely that Audley ever becomes a world champ.

Wlad, however, will have beaten Chambers and maybe some others who will become champs in the future.

Moreover when Wlad beats Haye, Wlad will have 17 real heavyweight world title wins and Haye 2. THAT is the real difference.

When Haye KO's Wlad none of that will matter.

[ChopperRead]

When Haye KO's Wlad none of that will matter.

If he does, and I highly doubt he will, I can't wait to see him pay the price when Vitali decapitates him.

[jknightx]

You know, both myself and others here have answered this question in one way or another over and over again. Maybe someone will come along and take the time to go over it once more, but otherwise why don't you do a search for the topic?

ChopperRead dont bother,Haye fans just get defensives and try to rationalize everything alway.It is like they are part of some cult were the cannot see the reality right in front of them. They over look that Wlad defeated Barrett over 7 years ago when he was consider still good and the top contender,in fact he almost killed Barrett lol. They over look that Wlad soundly defeated Chagaev who easily beat Valuev (much easier amd more decisive than Haye did)for the WBA strap .Chagaev was undefeated and the WBA champion when Wlad beat him.Wba stript Chagaev for fighting Wlad and let old Ruiz and Vaulev fight for the belt(AGAIN).Wlad defeat Brock when he was young ,undefeated and the number one contender ,beat Peters who was undefeated,beat Tony Thompson(who is better than anyone on Hayes record as heavy weight,.and it goes on and on. and how many young undefeated heavys has Haye fought? the answer in none.Barrett was long since shot when Haye fought him,Valuev the worst champ since Primo Carnera and just as protected and lost decisivelyto the first decent fight he fought Chagaev) Ruiz who had lost half of his last 6 fights and the only wins he had were against tomatoe cans in the past 5 years.And the great Audle Harrison who has never even beenn in the ring with a top 15 rated fighter . But HAYE fans will put on thier Haye tinted glasses and try to find ways to rationalize it all away.keep drinking that cool ade haye fans,it might all run out on july 2nd

[Clint650]

Haye is going to convert the non believers. Wlad is going to get rocked. Haye is going to be careful but he has had time to develope since the Barrett fight and he's all speed and power. Steward will have a good gameplan but after Wlad gets touched he wont be able to follow through. Haye will make him quit.

[Clint650]

ChopperRead dont bother,Haye fans just get defensives and try to rationalize everything alway.It is like they are part of some cult were the cannot see the reality right in front of them. They over look that Wlad defeated Barrett over 7 years ago when he was consider still good and the top contender,in fact he almost killed Barrett lol. They over look that Wlad soundly defeated Chagaev who easily beat Valuev (much easier amd more decisive than Haye did)for the WBA strap .Chagaev was undefeated and the WBA champion when Wlad beat him.Wba stript Chagaev for fighting Wlad and let old Ruiz and Vaulev fight for the belt(AGAIN).Wlad defeat Brock when he was young ,undefeated and the number one contender ,beat Peters who was undefeated,beat Tony Thompson(who is better than anyone on Hayes record as heavy weight,.and it goes on and on. and how many young undefeated heavys has Haye fought? the answer in none.Barrett was long since shot when Haye fought him,Valuev the worst champ since Primo Carnera and just as protected and lost decisivelyto the first decent fight he fought Chagaev) Ruiz who had lost half of his last 6 fights and the only wins he had were against tomatoe cans in the past 5 years.And the great Audle Harrison who has never even beenn in the ring with a top 15 rated fighter . But HAYE fans will put on thier Haye tinted glasses and try to find ways to rationalize it all away.keep drinking that cool ade haye fans,it might all run out on july 2nd

this is all true, but this is also the heavyweight division where anything is possible, so Haye with his speed and KO power is even more a threat than any other heavyweight contender out there even without an impressive record. although i see the Valuev fight as a good stepping stone for Haye since he showed great movement and patience. pre Valuev i thought Haye would rush in too fast and get caught by either Klitschko or any big hitter and be done, but i have a different opinion about him and this fight with Wlad. Wlad is going to get rocked.

[Steelhammer2011]

Wlad's resume is 1,000,000,000 times better than Haye's weak resume.

Hypejob Haye is a glass chinned fraud who hasn't beaten anyone with a pulse.

- he was knocked down twice and destroyed in 5 rounds by washed up shot 41 year old light heavyweight bum Carl Thompson.

- KTFO in the 1st round by a homeless bum.

- KO'd in 3 rounds by Solis, who is going to get destroyed by Vitali.

- got knocked down, badly hurt and almost KO'd by super middleweight bum Lolenga Mock, any other ref would've stopped the fight, but the fight was in the UK and the biased corrupt British ref saved Haye and let it continue. Super middleweight bum Lolenga Mock got robbed of a 2nd round TKO win over Haye.

- got knocked down and badly hurt by old shot midget Mormeck.

- got knocked down and badly hurt by old shot bum Barrett.

- was stunned and hurt by old shot feather fisted Ruiz, the ropes saved Haye from getting knocked down.

Wlad will easily KO Haye.

[Steelhammer2011]

[hweightblogger]

When Haye KO's Wlad none of that will matter.

Yes, it will matter even if Haye wins. Haye's record will still be worse than Wlad's, just as Jimmy Young's record is still worse than Foreman's despite the win.

Especially at heavyweight (where 1 lucky punch can decide a match) the whole record counts more than single fights.

[Dave Rado]

I can't wait to see wlad try and grab Haye, the look on his face when it doesn't work will be priceless.

How do you think Haye will prevent him from doing that?