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    Originally posted by EL_cano
    I dont know why WADA didnt think of it like that. Makes sense that WADA is out of the question.

    If they can get an 18 day cut off wht wrong with the 14 Floyd asked for?, better yet 7 days? not good enough??? how bout testing after the fight? also not good enough for Team Mayweather the Boss (but he like to mention the word "WE")
    Why are you kids so ***en Forrest Gump ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, random means anytime is a possiblity , the fighters dont know if its stopped at 18 days untill after the fight because they might be tested right up to the day ,,,,you dont comprehend that there was no cut off revealed anywhere untill after the fight , after the fact it dont matter what day it was stopped , there was NO OFFICIAL CUT OFF DAY KNOWN PRIOR TO AFTER THE FIGHT ,, get it sheese /

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      Yep, they keep dragging out the 18 days like it's some bullet proof argument, but all it proves is how ****** they are.

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        Originally posted by trainhard_187 View Post
        But WADA found it necessary to stop testing within a 18day window for the Floyd vs. Shane fight.. twice the number of days Pac is requesting to stop testing..

        If WADA found it necessary to stop at 18 then im sure the 7 day window wouldnt be an issue. If they felt the fighter could juice up then they would of tested them closer to the fighter ESPECIALLY the proven PED user Shane.?

        Now if WADA finds it ok to cut off at a 7 day window, then dont you think it would be ok. Cause they are the experts.
        Find me a quote from anyone at WADA or the USADA saying a 7 day cutoff is acceptable and the best way to do testing, and I'll concede that 7 days is ok and the testing is as effective as possible.

        I've explained this repeatedly, but when the USADA stopped testing after 18 days, they did not notify Mosley and Mayweather that testing would stop. As far as Mosley and Mayweather were concerned, they could have been tested again, which deters them from cheating. What Pac wants is 7 days where he cannot be tested. The difference is obvious.

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          Originally posted by Bee Keepz View Post
          Ah, now I see, no wonder. Good luck arguing with this *******s, "14 days was fair, 7 is not".

          Is it the 14 Day cut off Floyd asked Pac fair??

          Yes its fair
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          I'm more shocked that at the time some people felt Pac needed more than 14 days where he could not be tested. He really should be able to take the tests without a cutoff, unless he's hiding something.

          As I said earlier in this thread when someone asked me the same question, No, not really. If Mayweather backs down and allows him a cutoff, I won't be happy. I think they should do the full testing. I'll be happy I get to see the fight, and if there was a 0% of the fight being made without a cutoff, then I guess I'd have mixed feelings about it. Manny wanted some crazy cutoff time, and Mayweather compromised with a 14 day cutoff and he still said no. I thought it was fair, in a sense, but I think it was the wrong thing to do. There really isn't a single good reason why they both can't do the full testing without cutoff dates.

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            Originally posted by Red_Menace View Post

            As I said earlier in this thread when someone asked me the same question, No, not really. If Mayweather backs down and allows him a cutoff, I won't be happy. I think they should do the full testing. I'll be happy I get to see the fight, and if there was a 0% of the fight being made without a cutoff, then I guess I'd have mixed feelings about it. Manny wanted some crazy cutoff time, and Mayweather compromised with a 14 day cutoff and he still said no. I thought it was fair, in a sense, but I think it was the wrong thing to do. There really isn't a single good reason why they both can't do the full testing without cutoff dates.
            This is pretty much what I see, this issue has snowballed to the point where Manny has to man up if he wants it to go away, people can say wahtever about Floyd being a ***** but there is nothing he can do to solve this issue, other than offer the opputunity to prove he is clean in the biggest possible arena.

            I will never get why they made such a big deal out of this (unless they are guility) but if they are not guilty it was one of the dumbest stands in the history of sport for a guy that would otherwise have 0 question marks (most likely).

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              Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
              This is pretty much what I see, this issue has snowballed to the point where Manny has to man up if he wants it to go away, people can say wahtever about Floyd being a ***** but there is nothing he can do to solve this issue, other than offer the opputunity to prove he is clean in the biggest possible arena.

              I will never get why they made such a big deal out of this (unless they are guility) but if they are not guilty it was one of the dumbest stands in the history of sport for a guy that would otherwise have 0 question marks (most likely).
              I agree with you here , Manny is in between a rock and a hard place and they brought it on themselves , and as you say , the only logical reason they let this happen is that Manny is juicing , or they are really ducking Floyd ,,,, I mean the dude just lied that he agreed to full no cut of OST , signs a Cheat for a fake 150 belt and trys to make out Floyd ran off when it was the politition that ran off because he did not agree to full testing like he told everybody ,,,, WHY LIE ABOUT THAT ITS VERY SINISTER WHEN YOU LOOK AT POSSIBLE MOTIVES .

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                Originally posted by Red_Menace View Post
                As far as I'm concerned, if WADA says it is necessary to test in the final week, then it's necessary to test in the final week. That is their standard procedure. The only reason I can think they'd want to test in the final week is to prevent doping. What he could do in the final week, I don't know. What reason does Manny have to require he not be tested in the last seven days, ignoring the lame excuses like becoming a weakened fighter, or it being dangerous to his health (which it is not)?
                wait... then why didn't they do blood test for the wifebeater jr/mosley fight in the last weeK?

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                  Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
                  This is pretty much what I see, this issue has snowballed to the point where Manny has to man up if he wants it to go away, people can say wahtever about Floyd being a ***** but there is nothing he can do to solve this issue, other than offer the opputunity to prove he is clean in the biggest possible arena.

                  I will never get why they made such a big deal out of this (unless they are guility) but if they are not guilty it was one of the dumbest stands in the history of sport for a guy that would otherwise have 0 question marks (most likely).
                  wait... but the 2nd negotiations never happened... so what are we really arguing about?

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                    Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
                    wait... but the 2nd negotiations never happened... so what are we really arguing about?
                    Manny had another chance to bury this then he didn't do it then either., 2nd negotiations Floyd didn't want to to fight but there was nothing outwardly nefarious about what he did.

                    Manny looked pretty bad the first go around and has yet to even attempt to clean up that mess.

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                      Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
                      wait... but the 2nd negotiations never happened... so what are we really arguing about?
                      Is that the time Pacroid told everybody he agrees to full testing ,,, that was pure bull**** wasnt it , he just said that slip of the tongue to justify selling you fools EL Cheato isnt that right , fight inhouse EL Cheato so he can duck Floyd and a test , no other logical reason he would lie the way he did .

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