Comments Thread For: Mayweather-Pacquiao in October or November, Says Roach

[IMDAZED]

I actually thought about this for a second and Manny does the smarted thing any fighter can do which is this; If you aren't a good inside fighter don't try to be. Every ref tells fighters that if they engage with their opponent they will let them fight on the inside, but if not they will break it up.

So if you are terrible on the inside, like Manny is, then just hold and wait for the ref to break it up. If your opponent keeps doing it, then he will get points taking away for excessive clinching and holding. Kessler vs Ward is a good example in that because the ref told kessler if he wouldn't try to engage he would have broken it up, but because Kessler tried to fight back, he wasn't gonna penalize Ward for his tactics.

Floyd is going to muscle Manny on the inside. Maybe throw him around a bit - surprise him the way Holyfield did Tyson. Pac won't be able to hold Mayweather off from landing short rights in close quarters to his midsection - a place he doesn't like to get hit at all. And if his game plan is to tie Floyd up in the inside then I'd like to personally slap Roach, seeing as how no opponent has been able to successfully do so. Or even sniff success at that.

[And Still]

floyd mayweather jr is a complete fighter---manny pacquiao is not a complete fighter---that we do know---and when they fight--manny will not only be dominated all around the ring, he will look like he's in his 1st pro fight against an elite champion--basically in over his head--and he will be stopped by round 8----meaning he will be stopped then or earlier---i've said this so many times--manny will get stopped by floyd by the end of the 8th round---stay tuned and mark these words---i won't bbe shocked as it happens either----

Primo, most of these kids are hypd on manny for reasons other than an honest assessment of skill compared to FMJ.

And here's the thing: if this fight happens in November, and an exhausted and beat up Pacquiao is rescued by Roach, the victory will be minimized. Despite all of the people that may have picked Pac to beat Floyd.

All that darting in and out? Dead. Left hook, jab to the body controls that. Floyd clamshells and steps toward Pac. manny can't fight going backwards. I said it. Repeatedly. His idea of fighting going backwards is to take a step back, and then predictably plant to throw a punch. When Pac's head is flying back like a Pez dispenser, remember I told you.

Difference between Floyd and Clottey is that Mayweather SEAMLESSLY INTEGRATES his offense an defense. Joshua Clottey has a decent defense, but his offense is on the shelf when he defends.

All the people that have Manny as GOAT or top five or top ten better remember where they had Manny ranked. Just remember.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Running through this thread. Best thread in a while, keep it coming people.

[American Dream]

Well, he actually likes and respects lil' Floyd. He doesn't mind Floyd Sr. so much because Floyd Sr. likes to talk **** but most of his banter is just playing around. Roach really does hate Roger though. I think it comes from the fact that Roger keeps on disrepecting Eddie Futch, Roach's former trainer when he was a boxer, and when Roger whupped Freddie in sparring, which Freddie admits.

Roach was a horrible fighter..hes a way better trainer, i think..Roger would beat him then and now..thatd be a funny 24/7 though!!

Bro before you continue let me say this; Internet and real life are two different things. I went to the a few Pac fight and I never once saw a filipino act rowdy are talk **** like you claim.

Maybe they are racist....no one would ever know (being that you can't tell a person by just walking by them) but one thing I do know is that when I went to Dallas for the fight their were Filipinos everywhere with flags you name it. No one was talking **** and there were thousands up thousands there just happy to see a good fight.

Now if the fight was in LA against a black fighter and a Mexican fighter, I could see some fights, but other than that most people talk **** but its in a joking manner.

e.g. my cousin told a group of filipinos that I was from Africa and was rooting for Clottey. All those Filipino's did was boo me and tell me that Pac is the greatest, until I showed them my Pac tee shirt and they started laughing and giving me high fives. I mean if you have ever been to a fight then you know that most of the trash talk is light-hearted and people are just there to see a good fight.

sell-out..

lol...j/k!

Well yea that is cuz Pac is not really a WW. He is getting hit by the big boys now. That is why his face is is a lumped up. He is a small dude. Not a true WW just good enough to compete with elite WW.

And, why forget the Malignaggi fight?

jro..he isnt that small..and he really hasnt faced elite ww material..

[jrosales13]

Primo, most of these kids are hypd on manny for reasons other than an honest assessment of skill compared to FMJ.

And here's the thing: if this fight happens in November, and an exhausted and beat up Pacquiao is rescued by Roach, the victory will be minimized. Despite all of the people that may have picked Pac to beat Floyd.

All that darting in and out? Dead. Left hook, jab to the body controls that. Floyd clamshells and steps toward Pac. manny can't fight going backwards. I said it. Repeatedly. His idea of fighting going backwards is to take a step back, and then predictably plant to throw a punch. When Pac's head is flying back like a Pez dispenser, remember I told you.

Difference between Floyd and Clottey is that Mayweather SEAMLESSLY INTEGRATES his offense an defense. Joshua Clottey has a decent defense, but his offense is on the shelf when he defends.

All the people that have Manny as GOAT or top five or top ten better remember where they had Manny ranked. Just remember.

All I want to know why do you want to forget the Malignaggi fight for Hatton?

[Khalid X]

Floyd is going to muscle Manny on the inside. Maybe throw him around a bit - surprise him the way Holyfield did Tyson. Pac won't be able to hold Mayweather off from landing short rights in close quarters to his midsection - a place he doesn't like to get hit at all. And if his game plan is to tie Floyd up in the inside then I'd like to personally slap Roach, seeing as how no opponent has been able to successfully do so. Or even sniff success at that.

Naah that won't be the gameplan. They know Floyd is too strong for Manny and Manny never fights anyone on the inside. If anything I see Floyd trying to land that leaping left hook, tying up and pushing Pac around. The thing is he has to be careful because If manny isn't fighting back, it will look like Floyd is fighting dirty and the ref will put an end to it quick (with warnings and point deductions).

[zeidrich]

I say this with respect for both sides.

I can guarantee you this: if a Mayweather/pacquiao fight is made, some Black guys will end up beating th snot out of some Filipino guys.

Not in the ring...on the street. Or in the arena.

wow.... *****s are being exposed one after another

first one dont knows what a decade is
the other one with the asian girlfriend
and now a ***** who watch too much movies

[jrosales13]

jro..he isnt that small..and he really hasnt faced elite ww material..

How is he not a small WW? The man can easily make 140 still. On the weigh-ins he weighs the less out of all the top 10 WWs, Out of all the top 10 WWs he is the shortest, out of all the top 10 WWs he has the shortest reach. How is he not that small?

He beat two top WWs, one of them was ranked #3. How has he not faced elite WWs?

[Khalid X]

Roach was a horrible fighter..hes a way better trainer, i think..Roger would beat him then and now..thatd be a funny 24/7 though!!



sell-out..

lol...j/k!

jro..he isnt that small..and he really hasnt faced elite ww material..

actually I got back to my roots and was celebrated with the ghanian people before the fight. They were a crazy bunch (all 20 of them...lol)

Some filipino's were tailagated (about 40 of them) and they just walk through the middle of their **** waving the ghanian flag, dressed in their countries colors etc....they had me rolling and I was actually talking to a few of them post fight.

[IMDAZED]

Naah that won't be the gameplan. They know Floyd is too strong for Manny and Manny never fights anyone on the inside. If anything I see Floyd trying to land that leaping left hook, tying up and pushing Pac around. The thing is he has to be careful because If manny isn't fighting back, it will look like Floyd is fighting dirty and the ref will put an end to it quick (with warnings and point deductions).

No need for the leaping left hook until Pac is softened up. Jabs, straight rights, jabs downstairs, get inside. Repeat.

Pacquiao vs. Marquez II