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    Why Mosley wins.... (maxboxing.com)

    By Allan Scotto




    Not since the prime days of Muhammad Ali has a fighter had the unique ability to draw fans by the boatload to a fight. They came for one of two reasons: some hoping to see him win, others praying to see him get annihilated.

    But Ali�s philosophy was simple. Who cares? Just get their asses in the seats.

    Floyd Mayweather Jr. has that same ability, and probably, the same philosophy. But where Ali, for the most part, portrayed himself as the court jester, Mayweather comes off as arrogant and self-absorbed.

    But, the end result is the same, and Mayweather is, without question, the biggest draw in boxing today.

    And yet, he is often accused of ducking opponents that have a decent chance at beating him, ala Manny Pacquiao. However, in fairness, Mayweather�s beaten some tough guys, such as Arturo Gatti, Oscar De La Hoya, and Ricky Hatton.

    But some people feel that he may have bitten off more than he can chew with �Sugar?Shane Mosley.

    There were those in the boxing world who felt that Mosley was done, but as we witnessed in his fight with a now-disgraced Antonio Margarito- who was forced to fight without his Plaster of Paris wraps- nothing was further from the truth.

    Many people had thought that Mosley�s divorce proceedings from his ex- wife Jin, who many refer to in disdain as �Yoko Mosley,?would distract him, but Shane actually looked more relaxed and focused than he had in a long time.

    Shane Mosley destroyed Margarito, and he did not look like a 38-year-old fighter while doing it. He was in great shape, fast on his feet, and his hands were as quick as they ever were.

    One look at Margarito�s face at the end of the fight left no doubt that Mosley still had the power that took out 39 of the 46 opponents he�s defeated.

    And, like Mayweather, Mosley�s beaten some tough guys also, like Fernando Vargas, who he knocked out twice. He also beat Oscar De La Hoya twice, and slapped around the wild and extremely unorthodox Ricardo Mayorga.

    Floyd Mayweather�s claim to fame is that he is a defensive genius, and he is very rarely the aggressor. Floyd can use every square inch of the ring to distance himself from his opponents, drawing them in and countering, while keeping himself out of harm�s way.

    Mosley, on the other hand, can be extremely aggressive and is very adept at cutting off the ring from a defensive fighter like Mayweather.

    Shane Mosley will do to Mayweather what no other fighter has done; he�s going to rough him up.

    When Mayweather takes off, Mosley will pursue, and as Mosley uses his skill in cutting off the ring, that ring is going to get very small to Mayweather in a hurry.

    When Mayweather takes to the ropes and leans back with his hands up high, Mosley will rip shots to the body. That will eventually slow Mayweather down, and when that happens, Floyd will have no choice but to stand and fight.

    And that�s when Mayweather loses.

    Make no mistake, �Sugar?Shane Mosley can ****, and when Mayweather is forced to stand and fight, it is extremely doubtful that he�s going to be able to take the kind of pounding that Mosley delivered to Margarito.

    This will be eerily reminiscent of Antonio Tarver vs. Roy Jones Jr.

    Antonio Tarver figured out that Roy Jones cannot fight in tight quarters, and when you rough him up, he gets rattled. After Tarver exposed Jones, his loss percentage ****ed because every fighter who fought Jones after Tarver knew exactly what to do. Yes, age caught up to Roy, but Tarver had proven that Jones was never really that good to start with.

    Floyd Mayweather will suffer the same fate.

    When Mosley presses him and starts to hurt him, Mayweather will begin to unravel, and when that happens, Mosley will crank up the pressure, and Mayweather will suffer his first defeat, probably by knockout.

    Allan Scotto can be reached at [email protected]

    #2
    39 have tried exactly that. Not one of them was able to do it. It takes more than solid body punching to beat Mayweather. It takes something special and I don't know what it is. Mayweather is a better fighter than this guy gives him credit for.

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      #3
      "Yes, age caught up to Roy, but Tarver had proven that Jones was never really that good to start with."

      WOW I'm shocked at that statement.

      Is he also saying Mayweather isn't that good? and isn't good in close quarters? ...ok

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        #4
        I don't think you can post links to other boxing sites in thread titles.

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          #5
          Originally posted by AmericanYeti View Post
          39 have tried exactly that. Not one of them was able to do it. It takes more than solid body punching to beat Mayweather. It takes something special and I don't know what it is. Mayweather is a better fighter than this guy gives him credit for.
          40 have tried, 40 have failed. Not 39.

          And that's 41 counting The Big Show.

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            #6
            Isn't this the same thing that Hatton was supposed to do to Floyd???

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              #7
              Time to pick this apart

              Originally posted by Piper the Great View Post
              By Allan Scotto

              And yet, he is often accused of ducking opponents that have a decent chance at beating him, ala Manny Pacquiao. However, in fairness, Mayweather�s beaten some tough guys, such as Arturo Gatti, Oscar De La Hoya, and Ricky Hatton.

              But some people feel that he may have bitten off more than he can chew with �Sugar?Shane Mosley.

              There were those in the boxing world who felt that Mosley was done, but as we witnessed in his fight with a now-disgraced Antonio Margarito- who was forced to fight without his Plaster of Paris wraps- nothing was further from the truth.

              Many people had thought that Mosley�s divorce proceedings from his ex- wife Jin, who many refer to in disdain as �Yoko Mosley,?would distract him, but Shane actually looked more relaxed and focused than he had in a long time.

              Shane Mosley destroyed Margarito, and he did not look like a 38-year-old fighter while doing it. He was in great shape, fast on his feet, and his hands were as quick as they ever were.

              One look at Margarito�s face at the end of the fight left no doubt that Mosley still had the power that took out 39 of the 46 opponents he�s defeated.
              to me this is the biggest misconception and mistake those who are picking Mosley are using

              he beat Margarito.

              yeah but while Margarito is a tough game warrior built to outlast and out punish his opponents he is largely a stationary slugger willing to take a few to land a few

              Mayweather is not and never will be that person.

              while I do understand this is more about Shane did rather than who he did it against it reminds me of basketball teams who can dominate in the paint on one team yet struggle with others built to defend hard that very paint.

              styles make fights but they also lend to perceptions as well

              And, like Mayweather, Mosley�s beaten some tough guys also, like Fernando Vargas, who he knocked out twice. He also beat Oscar De La Hoya twice, and slapped around the wild and extremely unorthodox Ricardo Mayorga.
              cmon Feroz was really dinged and really had no business at 154 by the time Shane faced him and if I recall correctly gave Shane a hard time in their first encounter before the eye, not a knockout, stopped the fight

              this guy is reaching with that but then

              slapped around? short of the final seconds of the 12th round Shane didn't really slap Mayorga around. That fight was ugly sloppy and Shane looked horrible in it.

              Floyd Mayweather�s claim to fame is that he is a defensive genius, and he is very rarely the aggressor. Floyd can use every square inch of the ring to distance himself from his opponents, drawing them in and countering, while keeping himself out of harm�s way.
              but there is more to Mayweather than just D. It's accuracy its use of space in dominating it's outthinking his opponents gameplan it's adjusting to what is in front of him etc

              to lay it as a primarily Defensive stance is shorting Mayweather a lot

              Mosley, on the other hand, can be extremely aggressive and is very adept at cutting off the ring from a defensive fighter like Mayweather.
              not sure which fights he did this in but Mosley isn't really a lateral mover. Oh he has quick feet but it's usually jumping in and out of exchanges not moving laterally to cut of the ring of an opponent

              Shane Mosley will do to Mayweather what no other fighter has done; he�s going to rough him up.
              Castillo tried and found him to be hard to keep on the ropes or in clinches

              Baldomir couldn't keep up with Floyd enough to stay withing distance to rough him up

              Mosley has better closing speed but Mayweather is no weakling and as strong as people are making Shane out to be I think Mayweather is not that far behind and can probably break out of Shane's clutch

              When Mayweather takes off, Mosley will pursue, and as Mosley uses his skill in cutting off the ring, that ring is going to get very small to Mayweather in a hurry.
              in straight lines. The best footwork usually lies in fighters who can move side to side quickly trapping their opponent from getting to the middle of the ring. Mosley has really never been that. Like I stated previously, he has quick feet but uses them in a lineal direction

              When Mayweather takes to the ropes and leans back with his hands up high, Mosley will rip shots to the body. That will eventually slow Mayweather down, and when that happens, Floyd will have no choice but to stand and fight.
              thats what he is hoping for but no one of yet has really been able to take advantage of Floyd being on the ropes for long stretches in fact the longer heavier DLH took more coming in than him landing

              And that�s when Mayweather loses.
              maybe but I doubt it

              Make no mistake, �Sugar?Shane Mosley can ****, and when Mayweather is forced to stand and fight, it is extremely doubtful that he�s going to be able to take the kind of pounding that Mosley delivered to Margarito.
              I will say this right now.

              Mayweather will not stand in front of Shane begging him to hit him ala Margarito. The only time we may see it is if Floyd thinks Shane can no longer hurt him otherwise Mayweather will box

              This will be eerily reminiscent of Antonio Tarver vs. Roy Jones Jr.
              huge reach. One is a tall southpaw the other was a fighter coming back down from heavyweight

              Antonio Tarver figured out that Roy Jones cannot fight in tight quarters, and when you rough him up, he gets rattled. After Tarver exposed Jones, his loss percentage ****ed because every fighter who fought Jones after Tarver knew exactly what to do. Yes, age caught up to Roy, but Tarver had proven that Jones was never really that good to start with.
              just wow at the last part.

              Floyd Mayweather will suffer the same fate.

              When Mosley presses him and starts to hurt him, Mayweather will begin to unravel, and when that happens, Mosley will crank up the pressure, and Mayweather will suffer his first defeat, probably by knockout.

              Allan Scotto can be reached at [email protected]
              pressing if more than following which Shane is known for

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                #8
                Originally posted by Piper the Great View Post
                By Allan Scotto




                Not since the prime days of Muhammad Ali has a fighter had the unique ability to draw fans by the boatload to a fight. They came for one of two reasons: some hoping to see him win, others praying to see him get annihilated.

                But Ali�s philosophy was simple. Who cares? Just get their asses in the seats.

                Floyd Mayweather Jr. has that same ability, and probably, the same philosophy. But where Ali, for the most part, portrayed himself as the court jester, Mayweather comes off as arrogant and self-absorbed.

                But, the end result is the same, and Mayweather is, without question, the biggest draw in boxing today.

                And yet, he is often accused of ducking opponents that have a decent chance at beating him, ala Manny Pacquiao. However, in fairness, Mayweather�s beaten some tough guys, such as Arturo Gatti, Oscar De La Hoya, and Ricky Hatton.

                But some people feel that he may have bitten off more than he can chew with �Sugar?Shane Mosley.

                There were those in the boxing world who felt that Mosley was done, but as we witnessed in his fight with a now-disgraced Antonio Margarito- who was forced to fight without his Plaster of Paris wraps- nothing was further from the truth.

                Many people had thought that Mosley�s divorce proceedings from his ex- wife Jin, who many refer to in disdain as �Yoko Mosley,?would distract him, but Shane actually looked more relaxed and focused than he had in a long time.

                Shane Mosley destroyed Margarito, and he did not look like a 38-year-old fighter while doing it. He was in great shape, fast on his feet, and his hands were as quick as they ever were.

                One look at Margarito�s face at the end of the fight left no doubt that Mosley still had the power that took out 39 of the 46 opponents he�s defeated.

                And, like Mayweather, Mosley�s beaten some tough guys also, like Fernando Vargas, who he knocked out twice. He also beat Oscar De La Hoya twice, and slapped around the wild and extremely unorthodox Ricardo Mayorga.

                Floyd Mayweather�s claim to fame is that he is a defensive genius, and he is very rarely the aggressor. Floyd can use every square inch of the ring to distance himself from his opponents, drawing them in and countering, while keeping himself out of harm�s way.

                Mosley, on the other hand, can be extremely aggressive and is very adept at cutting off the ring from a defensive fighter like Mayweather.

                Shane Mosley will do to Mayweather what no other fighter has done; he�s going to rough him up.

                When Mayweather takes off, Mosley will pursue, and as Mosley uses his skill in cutting off the ring, that ring is going to get very small to Mayweather in a hurry.

                When Mayweather takes to the ropes and leans back with his hands up high, Mosley will rip shots to the body. That will eventually slow Mayweather down, and when that happens, Floyd will have no choice but to stand and fight.

                And that�s when Mayweather loses.

                Make no mistake, �Sugar?Shane Mosley can ****, and when Mayweather is forced to stand and fight, it is extremely doubtful that he�s going to be able to take the kind of pounding that Mosley delivered to Margarito.

                This will be eerily reminiscent of Antonio Tarver vs. Roy Jones Jr.

                Antonio Tarver figured out that Roy Jones cannot fight in tight quarters, and when you rough him up, he gets rattled. After Tarver exposed Jones, his loss percentage ****ed because every fighter who fought Jones after Tarver knew exactly what to do. Yes, age caught up to Roy, but Tarver had proven that Jones was never really that good to start with.

                Floyd Mayweather will suffer the same fate.

                When Mosley presses him and starts to hurt him, Mayweather will begin to unravel, and when that happens, Mosley will crank up the pressure, and Mayweather will suffer his first defeat, probably by knockout.

                Allan Scotto can be reached at [email protected]
                I agree with all this EXCEPT for that BS about Roy never being good....thats crazy!!

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                  #9
                  I stopped reading at "He has beaten some tough guys such as Gatti, Hatton and Delahoya".

                  Really those are the best opponent you could list. Not worth reading the rest of rubbish.

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                    #10
                    i think mosley wins, I read this article this morning and I think its terrible.

                    it's a whole bunch of 1+1=3 crap with a few good points mixed in. Makes little sense and is very poorly written. I've never been a big fan of Scotto's work and this is one example of why.

                    He's quickly working himself into Lyle Fitzsimmons crap territory.

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