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    Hopkins Is An Idiot!!!!

    Does the purse split bother anyone else? He's fighting RJ for 50/50. If one guy wins by KO then they get 60/40 but the normal purse is 50/50.

    It upsets me alot because the RJ-Hopkins rematch after the Tito fight was IMO the biggest fight in history not to happened. RJ at that time was still one of the best fighters ever and I think Hopkins at that time wouldve given any MW in history hell, including Hagler. I mean it just didnt get any better than that rematch. I actually thought up until that point that Hopkins gave RJ a harder fight than anyone in his career so I know it wouldve been a beast fight now with Hopkins at his peak & RJ fighting at a super high level.

    Then you look back in hindsight and its even worst that the fight never came off because we saw an even older RJ come down to SMW and still look good against Tito while we saw Bernard jump straight from MW to LHW and look like a flat beast so you know that he couldve went to SMW at that time without any problem. There was questions at that time about how SMW would effect both guys but I think hindsight shows us that they wouldve put on a great show there at that time.

    I remember being pissed at Hopkins back then for wanting a bigger share than RJ. I was like, how are you going to seriously demand a bigger share when RJ is a bigger name in the sport, the P4P #1 fighter in the sport, is unbeaten, and already has a win over you? It was like the dumbest thing ever. Everyone laughs at RJ's 60/40 Ill kick yo ass line but that **** was real talk. 60/40 was more than fair but I saw Hopkins in every interview say that after the MW tourney, there is no way that RJ can get a bigger share than him. It was dumb.

    Thats why Im so baffled & upset now. You bitched & cried non stop back then about how you wont fight RJ without getting a larger share even though RJ had all those legitmate reasons that I named earlier about how he should get a bigger share, yet you are now fighting him for 50/50 when your name is just as big or bigger in the sport, you are rated way higher, you are clearly the better P4P fighter, and he is coming off of a horrible loss. Still you accept 50/50 but back then you wanted more than 50?

    That **** dont make any sense. If RJ can get 50 with Hopkins now then there is no way in hell that he shouldnt have gotten 60 back then. That just shows you how dumb Bernard is and how he ruined that mega fight. It wouldve been a master piece IMO and this fool ****ed it up. Now he's fighting this shot, crap, non ranked version of RJ for 50 when his name is just as big or even bigger? **** 60 for the KO, you should be getting 60 anyways, at the least. This fool shouldve takened the 40 back then and he should be getting 60 now. I dont get it.
    Last edited by DLT; 02-17-2010, 08:48 AM.

    #2
    The fight never happened because Hopkins priced himself out. I believe he wasn't confident that he could beat Jones, so he stopped the fight from happeneing.

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      #3
      I agree with you..this fight needed to happen in 2002.. 8 years later and it's finally a 50/50 split. That fight would have put in numbers as far as PPV and would probably get the most hype during that time.. Now they both are old, boring to watch and i doubt the fight sells over 100k PPV's

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        #4
        Originally posted by TriGaFinGa
        how is he an idiot? he's taking the fight now that he has a chance, it's quite the contrary
        IDK, I still stand by what I said about him giving RJ his toughest fight up until that point and I think people forget how good Hopkins was around the time of the Tito fight. Add to that we saw his look great in his very 1st fight at LHW and he's a tall guy so I know he wouldve looked great at SMW for that fight. I think he wouldve given RJ hell. Not saying he would win because RJ was one of the best ever but thats why the fight wouldve been so great.

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          #5
          yes i would say hopkins is a synonym for idiot or maybe he thinks fighting a shot, old, shell... oh man i feel so bad saying this... roy jones will mean something to someone... I think i'm actually going to skip this fight... i can't watch jones get busted up again...

          why does hopkins need this fight??? why is jones agreeing? this is just nonsense...

          ...i'll watch with a box of Kleenex close by...

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            #6
            Originally posted by DLT View Post
            IDK, I still stand by what I said about him giving RJ his toughest fight up until that point and I think people forget how good Hopkins was around the time of the Tito fight.
            Jones was clearly struggling to make the weight during his MW reign, which you can tell by the fact that he had so many fights at a SMW catchweight. He also injured his hand in training for the Hopkins fight, I would say Roy was really in his prime at SMW, when he first fought Toney.
            Originally posted by DLT View Post
            Add to that we saw his look great in his very 1st fight at LHW and he's a tall guy so I know he wouldve looked great at SMW for that fight. I think he wouldve given RJ hell. Not saying he would win because RJ was one of the best ever but thats why the fight wouldve been so great.
            Hopkins has openly said that he was struggling to make the MW limit during the back end of his career he could of easily moved up to SMW if he wanted too. He made his Pro debut at LHW before moving down two divisions. I still think Jones beats him at that stage maybe even easier than before

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              #7
              Originally posted by R.Winky Wright View Post
              yes i would say hopkins is a synonym for idiot or maybe he thinks fighting a shot, old, shell... oh man i feel so bad saying this... roy jones will mean something to someone... I think i'm actually going to skip this fight... i can't watch jones get busted up again...

              why does hopkins need this fight??? why is jones agreeing? this is just nonsense...

              ...i'll watch with a box of Kleenex close by...
              Hopkins needs this fight because he wants to keep fighting but not against any of the dominant fighters at LHW or CW. Jones needs this fight to somehow reclaim some credibility, which he lost during the whole Green fiasco. For the record I think he took a dive in that fight, Greens punch didn't even touch him

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                #8
                If you look at the history of how it happened you'd know it was the other way around. Hopkins didn't want to fight him till after Jones was already done. Jones played around with him for years, dangling a fight in front of him and every time they tried to work something out Jones would change up the terms to something ridiculous. He knew Hopkins was on top of his **** at that point and would give him hell. He never wanted the fight. All Hopkins always asked for was 50/50 and that's what he's getting now (unless a ko happens).Hopkins rational was that if they were going to give Tito that much if he had beat Hopkins, which everybody had assumed he would, then it was only fair that he got the same. You've got to understand, it was a pride thing. Now Roy is willing to budge because he's got nothing to lose really at this point. If he loses the fight all his fans are always going to say that he was past his prime, thats the only reason Hopkins beat him. Hopkins is giving him that because he knows regardless of what people say, this is the potential highest grossing fight he can make, and a safe fight. I mean do you think the casual fan is going to pay to see Hopkins/Green? Hopkins ain't as ****** as you think.

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                  #9
                  Hopkins didn't want Roy then. He thinks he can beat him now that Roy has lost speed, reflexes, footwork. We will see. I lost respect for Hopkins when he took this fight after what happened in Australia. He tries to enchance his legacy by beating a diminished version of Roy. He can never erase from history what happened in 93. Certainly not by fighting Roy now. For what he tries to do he deserves to lose again.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by rskumm21 View Post
                    If you look at the history of how it happened you'd know it was the other way around. Hopkins didn't want to fight him till after Jones was already done. Jones played around with him for years, dangling a fight in front of him and every time they tried to work something out Jones would change up the terms to something ridiculous. He knew Hopkins was on top of his **** at that point and would give him hell. He never wanted the fight. All Hopkins always asked for was 50/50 and that's what he's getting now (unless a ko happens).Hopkins rational was that if they were going to give Tito that much if he had beat Hopkins, which everybody had assumed he would, then it was only fair that he got the same. You've got to understand, it was a pride thing. Now Roy is willing to budge because he's got nothing to lose really at this point. If he loses the fight all his fans are always going to say that he was past his prime, thats the only reason Hopkins beat him. Hopkins is giving him that because he knows regardless of what people say, this is the potential highest grossing fight he can make, and a safe fight. I mean do you think the casual fan is going to pay to see Hopkins/Green? Hopkins ain't as ****** as you think.
                    Bernard Hopkins:
                    HOPKINS: I don't have a clue but you had to know Roy wanted to go to heavyweight and his mind was set. When most people heard the talks broke all I saw was writers and the boxing world saying "Bernard Hopkins lost another big fight", more writers should say what you just said "That's crazy." Roy Jones almost lost to Tarver and his excuse his well "I lost 25 pounds," but yet they want me to but on damn near 35 pounds to go up to 190 pounds and fight Superman. Hell, I haven't made 160 pounds in a while (1-31-1998 vs. Simon Brown was the last time) so for people to think that I could come in at 190 and be able to fight effectively at that weight would be crazy.
                    HOPKINS: People want to me to go up to 190 pounds to fight "superman" and be basically a sacrificial lamb but these same people will do their best to keep Oscar De La Hoya, Shane Mosley, and Ricardo Mayorga among a few, away from me. Why don't these people want those guys to fight me?

                    Case in point... I'm going to quote Larry Merchant, who's part of the system and he's nothing more than a puppet on a string, here's what he said... "Why are you calling out the little guys, I never heard of a middleweight calling out the little guys."
                    side boxing.com/news.php?p=211&more=1
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                    "Again, unless the deal is signed, sealed and delivered, I didn't think it was going to happen," said James. "Whether that was a Jirov fight or a Hopkins fight. I didn't think any of those fights were going to happen unless the deal was signed. Now, with respect to Hopkins, Roy did make a good faith effort in trying to make that fight happen. It didn't happen I guess because Bernard's number was too high. But I didn't think that the Jirov fight was going to happen and again, where it comes to Roy Jones, I want to see the deal signed before I go out and start promoting a fight."


                    Also Jones belt was on the line, he was more popular than Hopkins and he had already beaten him, so why should Jones have given him a 50/50 split? Hopkins was making around 250k fighting his mandatories he would of made around 3M fighting Jones again. He walked away from the fight and fought Hakkar instead.
                    Last edited by General Zod; 02-17-2010, 09:26 AM.

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