The taller the boxer, the stronger puncher it is?

[rge]

Your examples are pretty messed up too, why compare willard with johnson, why not Dempsey? lol

Because with Johnson he had 34 years, while with Dempsey he had 38, near 40, in times where much people lived 50-60 years.

Like I said above, height cant only be stronger as it adds weight. However if you were to compare a tall & short person of exact same weight, the taller guy will be thinner therefore faster but weaker, the shorter guy will look much more bulked therefore slower but stronger.

That isn't true, look at Corrales, he has more punch than all the orthers at 130 and 135 and is the thinniest.

[dangerousity]

4 years isnt gonna affect punching power that much. Its mostly agility, look at foreman, he lost everything but his power at 45.

Also there are always gonna be exceptions to the rule, I did mention Hearns. I didnt say that as a golden rule, its a general thing. Even I can feel it, if I was shorter in same weight it would mean more mass or bigger bone density thus more power. Think of it this way, if you had a stick(bone) and had to hit something with it, which would be more durable for hitting, the thin long one or the short big one.

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To me it seems like the 1st one is more likely to snap. Im not saying your bones would snap but I would imagine your body to allow more force based on what your body can handle.

Besides, Castillo had more power than Corrales, he dropped him twice. Like I said its not a golden rule. Weight = more power too but I seen tons who weigh less and are stronger punchers.

[dangerousity]

It wasn't how I saw the fight, although I didn't want any of them to win.
I saw a powerful body shot from Pacman at the round 1 and nothing more, all other punches were normal and didn't affect Morales much. To the contrary Morales pounches affected Pacman in some rounds. Pacman vas very stron at 122lbs. I would have liked to see Morales Pacman at 126, halfway between current weight and past weight, and even at 122, to watch a more competitive fight than it was at 130.




Thanks, interesting. A 6'5" 130lbs is too thin that you lowered his mucle too much. Make same height example but at other weight: 6'5" 230lbs against a 5'0" 230lbs.

The pity patters I saw from pacman was a joke too. Watch vs Marquez and vs Barrera, he didnt fight like that. Pac's power is mostly in that left hand from afar, notice how he lunges when throwing it, thats where teh power comes from. The quick flurries to the body wasnt gonna do much, I do them too but not for power but rather just trying to get lots of punches in.

Of course Pac would look more shaken cos he was getting way more outboxed, Morales was landing more punches than him. Watch the 12th rnd again, Morales traded and he was wobbling around everywhere. Some say it was blood on floor but his face didnt look like it and why wasnt Pacman wobbling around?

For your example, the 5'0 would be too stacked up thus too slow. Power = speed*strength. You ever seen those really short bodybuilders? Their biceps so big they cant even scratch their ass, doubt he would have the speed to pull off the punch. A fair one like 6'0 160lbs vs 5'8 160lbs, Id go with shorter one. Usually when I see fights its always the shorter one who is considered the puncher thus the taller one has to try box and dance around. It maybe not to allow them to get on the inside but also power.

[rge]

4 years isnt gonna affect punching power that much Its mostly agility, look at foreman, he lost everything but his power at 45..

Boxers don't loose because of punch at 38, they loose fights at about 38 beacuse they have less reflexes, less movility, etc, this is the least important factor justifying a loose at 38, since power is the least thing they loose. I didn't mean he lost his power at 38.

Also there are always gonna be exceptions to the rule, I did mention Hearns. I didnt say that as a golden rule, its a general thing.

Yes, there are exceptions, that means that some other variables exist, I just try to know if bone density is one important.

Besides, Castillo had more power than Corrales, he dropped him twice. Like I said its not a golden rule. Weight = more power too but I seen tons who weigh less and are stronger punchers.

Corrales has more power, but a weak chin. That was commented before the fight: power of Corrales against durable chin of Castillo.

[cvt]

people can 'train' for power as well. some of your power along with technique and timing come from traing your fast twitch muscle fibers. plyometrics.

example: if two men were of equal physical stature..one trained with just weights...using slow reps...and one trained with a heavy bag..who do you think will punch harder at the end of 6 months?

it's not really 'strength' but the explosiveness you get from a still to the point of impact and the amount of mass you drive into it hence the speed*mass=power.

in a way...explosive bag work > low rep bench presses...

you see power in all shapes and sizes...in all weight levels.

[rge]

The pity patters I saw from pacman was a joke too. Watch vs Marquez and vs Barrera, he didnt fight like that. Pac's power is mostly in that left hand from afar, notice how he lunges when throwing it, thats where teh power comes from. The quick flurries to the body wasnt gonna do much, I do them too but not for power but rather just trying to get lots of punches in.

Yes his left hand is the powerful one, he hurt Morales in round 1 at the body with it. Will watch round 12.

For your example, the 5'0 would be too stacked up thus too slow. Power = speed*strength. You ever seen those really short bodybuilders? Their biceps so big they cant even scratch their ass, doubt he would have the speed to pull off the punch.

Yes they can't take big punches with all that muscle mass.

A fair one like 6'0 160lbs vs 5'8 160lbs, Id go with shorter one. Usually when I see fights its always the shorter one who is considered the puncher thus the taller one has to try box and dance around. It maybe not to allow them to get on the inside but also power.

I don't think so, at least recently: Corrales having best punch at 130 and 135, Trinidad at much of the weight classes he had, and is taller than most boxers for 140lbs, 147lbs, even 154lbs.

[Dio2]

The power in a punch is determined by how fast the fist is going and how much weight is behind it. The length of the arms has nothing to do with it.

[paul750]

The power in a punch is determined by how fast the fist is going and how much weight is behind it. The length of the arms has nothing to do with it.

that what i said previously, it's speed times the mass, it's like a guy once said, a bullet dosen't kill you because of it's size, it kills you because of the speed it's traveling at, if a cannonball could travel at the same speed as a bullet it would go throught about 30 buildings

[Dio2]

The thing about fast twitch muscles is the extent to which you can train them. Although you can train to be quicker there are physical limits to it. If you take someone born with average speed that ran track since he was 6 and a guy that is just naturally fast and didn't run track until 21 the guy who is naturally fast will almost always win.

[rge]

The power in a punch is determined by how fast the fist is going and how much weight is behind it. The length of the arms has nothing to do with it.

Thanks, but if tall boxers throw a punch from longer distance, doesn't it get faster? (maintaining all other variables the same, of course).